Delta commute to JFK
01-30-2008 | 09:51 AM
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The Q Runner pickup is at the corner of Metropolitan and Lefferts.
Another option is taking the subway to JFK AirTrain. $2 subway + $2.50 Airtrain if you buy a 10 ride ticket.
If you are on the ER and can commute into JFK, then Howard Beach is an option. I've never been there, but I've heard of one or two crashpads in that area.
Once you have access to DeltaNet, go to the Chief Pilot Support Center for the Northeast Region and download the Welcome Package. It's a wealth of information on commuting. The crashpad info is out of date though. Your best source for crashpad info is the message board in the JFK pilot lounge.
Another option is taking the subway to JFK AirTrain. $2 subway + $2.50 Airtrain if you buy a 10 ride ticket.
If you are on the ER and can commute into JFK, then Howard Beach is an option. I've never been there, but I've heard of one or two crashpads in that area.
Once you have access to DeltaNet, go to the Chief Pilot Support Center for the Northeast Region and download the Welcome Package. It's a wealth of information on commuting. The crashpad info is out of date though. Your best source for crashpad info is the message board in the JFK pilot lounge.
I think that if you are going to be flying the ER and use both JFK and LGA for commuting then Kew Gardens is you're best bet. The Q runner picks up on the hour and half hour at Metro and Lefferts and will take you to either JFK or LGA for $7 plus tip.
01-30-2008 | 09:56 AM
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ER pilots: Do you guys really rotate the landings if the IRO needs one? Sweet. At AA letting the IRO snag a landing is like pulling teeth. He usually ends up at the schoolhouse every three months for currency.
At least that's how it is on the 777. On the 767 NYC, there are tons of two-pilot caribbean turns along with the Europe/SA three-pilot stuff, so you can always stay current if you need to.
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At least that's how it is on the 777. On the 767 NYC, there are tons of two-pilot caribbean turns along with the Europe/SA three-pilot stuff, so you can always stay current if you need to.
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01-30-2008 | 10:00 AM
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Anyone have any idea what "international ... ultra long call reserve" is? Is that like "double secret probation?"[/QUOTE]
That is a left over from an old contract when domestic had windows when long call pilots had to anwser the phone. You had to live near base if you were a reserve pilot. Those on international had an eight hour call out to a trip or short call.
That is a left over from an old contract when domestic had windows when long call pilots had to anwser the phone. You had to live near base if you were a reserve pilot. Those on international had an eight hour call out to a trip or short call.
01-30-2008 | 05:10 PM
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For those new hires with 7ER's at JFK, and still sitting reserve, approximately how many days a month do you have to go up to NY and sit alert? Do you have to sit in your CP and wait, or are there things you can do?
01-31-2008 | 04:46 PM
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Plan on 3-4 short calls per month out of your 18 days of reserve. Depending where you live, long call may be an option from home. Don't waste your time in NYC sitting around your crashpad. It's a great city with lots to see and do. My advice is get a NYC travel guide and explore the city. Just make sure you can report within 2-3 hours for a short call if you get assigned.
01-31-2008 | 06:18 PM
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Yeah we don't have any dedicated IROs here at Delta. Usually we talk about who needs landings during briefing and the Captain divvies it up....or we flip a coin, whatever. Its normally not a problem to get your landings in.
But we do have a mini-1-day-recurrent every 6 months to practice some stuff in the sim. Generally a non-jeopardy painless event.
Now the 777 is probably tougher with 4 pilots. I think there are probably a bunch of guys who only land in the sim.
But we do have a mini-1-day-recurrent every 6 months to practice some stuff in the sim. Generally a non-jeopardy painless event.
Now the 777 is probably tougher with 4 pilots. I think there are probably a bunch of guys who only land in the sim.
At AA we have CA lines, FO lines and FB (IRO) lines. If you get an FB (IRO) line, you are stuck as the IRO the whole month (unless you trip trade for FO trips.)
APA tried to introduce what you guys have a few years ago - whereby the CA could divvy up the landings between who needed them most. Then FOs started *****ing that they were getting booted out of their "hard earned seat" and that seniority was being abrogated, yada yada yada. APA finally put an end to it and from then on, you are stuck as either FO or FB, and it's off to the sim every three months if you haven't gotten a landing.
Cool to see how different airlines run the system.
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01-31-2008 | 06:25 PM
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APA tried to introduce what you guys have a few years ago - whereby the CA could divvy up the landings between who needed them most. Then FOs started *****ing that they were getting booted out of their "hard earned seat" and that seniority was being abrogated, yada yada yada. APA finally put an end to it and from then on, you are stuck as either FO or FB, and it's off to the sim every three months if you haven't gotten a landing. 73
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02-01-2008 | 12:59 PM
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Well, here's the difference, apparently. At AA, FOs and IROs bid their own separate lines, with FO lines going more senior. Hence the seniority issue. However, there are many CAs/FOs who offer the landing to the IRO. But most IROs gladly take the 3 sim landings every three months because we get paid an extra 5 hours to go to school. Not a bad deal.
I guess at DL, you guys only bid FO lines, and it is sorted out at departure.
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I guess at DL, you guys only bid FO lines, and it is sorted out at departure.
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02-03-2008 | 01:34 PM
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Exactly...we just bid FO lines. There are actual IRO trip pairing numbers for organizational purposes, but we don't have designated IROs.
I like it...and at this point in our careers what is the point of getting into a XXXing match over who gets "stick time". Somedays I feel like flying...other times "food boy" is just what I'm in the mood for.
I like it...and at this point in our careers what is the point of getting into a XXXing match over who gets "stick time". Somedays I feel like flying...other times "food boy" is just what I'm in the mood for.
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