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04-17-2008, 05:20 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Hunt599
Dont take me wrong when I say this......Im not taking EWRBased's side what so ever......BUT this thread that you started..IMHO seems like you are rubbing your companys fortunes in everyones face.....something none of us need right now......
Everyone knows what a well run and profitable company WN is.....let it go already......
Everyone knows what a well run and profitable company WN is.....let it go already......
Considering the market environment, I think CO is doing pretty good. Everyone, including UPS is taking a beating in the market regarding fuel prices. Simply put, everyones bottom line affected. A market report isn't really rubbing anyones fortunes is it? <g>
Still think most take a good job wherever we find it when we are on that job hunting escalator and accentuate the positives, downplay the negatives, make fun of management, and try to survive the tumult that has always been, will be, the airline industry. It is our nature. Haven't met a pilot group yet that I haven't enjoyed. We all have our unique characters, but like a family, celebrate with everyone. We all need thicker skin and quit bashing each others pilot groups. Few tumbles of luck we all could be somewhere else.
04-17-2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
How exactly do we report a post to an administrator?
Oops...nevermind I just found the little triangle at the bottom left corner of each post.
04-17-2008, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunt599
Dont take me wrong when I say this......Im not taking EWRBased's side what so ever......BUT this thread that you started..IMHO seems like you are rubbing your companys fortunes in everyones face.....something none of us need right now......
Everyone knows what a well run and profitable company WN is.....let it go already......
Everyone knows what a well run and profitable company WN is.....let it go already......
04-17-2008, 06:58 PM
#55
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There is a difference between posting about SWA's success and flaming folks about it. As long as the flamebait goes away, APC is a better place. That's my main concern. I'd like to see APC be a kinder, gentler, place than the beginning of this thread. Kudo's to whoever can help with that.
04-17-2008, 07:46 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by mulcher
I was just reporting the news. Nothing meant by it at all. I would have done the same thing if we reported a loss...minus the smiley face. Sorry if it bothers some.
04-17-2008, 08:42 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover
I read somewhere that SWA has in 2009 has 50% of their fuel hedged at $51 a barrel. Compared to Alaska hedging at $80 a barrel (and their the second best!). That gives SWA a huge huge advantage considering fuel in 2009 could be 120-140 a barrel. Those airlines with little or no hege will have a much more difficult time.
Future Fuel Hedge Positions
Approximate % of Expected
Fuel Requirements
Approximate Crude Oil
Price per Barrel
First Quarter 2008
50% $66.88
Second Quarter 2008
50% $72.60
Third Quarter 2008
50% $78.03
Fourth Quarter 2008
50% $76.74
Full Year 2008
50% $73.72
First Quarter 2009
16% $83.97
Second Quarter 2009
16% $82.90
Third Quarter 2009
12% $82.95
Fourth Quarter 2009
10% $82.08
Full Year 2009
13% $83.07
04-17-2008, 10:03 PM
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This site is "neat" in the sense that it rips on the extremes of success and failure.
SWA = enjoying the greatest success of any pax 121 airline right now.
Site (out of proportion) attitude: SWA = poop, and will fail.
Mesa = biggest abortion of a pax 121 airline right now.
Site attitude: Mesa = poop, and will fail.
One is correct and justified (Mesa?) and the other is not.
Makes perfect sense to me.
The way I see it, we should all rejoice in the fact that a least one pax major is being productive in our industry and setting an example that every airline should emulate, as opposed to every airline bleeding $, and EVERYONE in danger of losing their jobs.
SWA = enjoying the greatest success of any pax 121 airline right now.
Site (out of proportion) attitude: SWA = poop, and will fail.
Mesa = biggest abortion of a pax 121 airline right now.
Site attitude: Mesa = poop, and will fail.
One is correct and justified (Mesa?) and the other is not.
Makes perfect sense to me.
The way I see it, we should all rejoice in the fact that a least one pax major is being productive in our industry and setting an example that every airline should emulate, as opposed to every airline bleeding $, and EVERYONE in danger of losing their jobs.
04-18-2008, 04:12 AM
#60
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Originally Posted by LuvJockey
Fair enough - the problem is that when what really needs to be done is to call out an individual like the prolific ewrbasedpilot, you can't use an adjective like stupid because it is insulting. Meanwhile, the only method we have to shovel it back over the fence is to insult the company he works for and the rest of the pilots there. My apologies for that, Continental pilots, there is "one of them" everywhere.
How exactly do we report a post to an administrator?
Oops...nevermind I just found the little triangle at the bottom left corner of each post.
How exactly do we report a post to an administrator?
Oops...nevermind I just found the little triangle at the bottom left corner of each post.
Gee, thanks.........you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm not. Just as you are "supposedly" a company man, so am I. Nothing wrong with that, but when the playing field is leveled, and it will be, things will be different. Comparing SWA to CAL or UAL is like comparing a Volkswagen to a Mercedes. Yep, they're both cars and do the same thing, but one is a whole lot different than the other. I guess that's a point guys at SWA can't fathom.....
SWA is a great company, and nobody disagrees with that point, but as some have said, when you rub everyones nose in how great you are, it'll soon come back to haunt you...................
BTW, I guess if you want to "report" me for asking how SWA will do when their fuel hedges run out you must be having some serious issues...............
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