AWA PILOTS SUE USAIRWAYS and USAPA
#21
And if you lost a GREAT job, USAirways is certainly not going to replace it ... FWIW.
#24
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It isn't their duty to get you employed. They happen to have jobs and they are well within their rights to complain about them if they want. Sorry if that offends you. Does most of this country have these communist/socialist tendencies, or is it just the members of this board?
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The intent of the transition agreement is to facilitate the merger between two pilot groups. In it details about fleet counts, furlough protection, CBA voting and seniority integration among others are spelled out in detail. The lawsuit brought about by the west will allow the transition agreement between AWA and AAA to be presented before a federal judge in a court of law. This will preserve the integrity of the agreement by all three parties and allow for a definitive answer as to whether USAPA can actually make arbitrary changes to it without consulting anyone. USAPA's biggest obstacle will be to argue that "final and binding" in the agreement THEY agreed to no longer applies.
I predict these two legal claims will be short lived law suites because it is very black and white. The transition agreement is very specific how the seniority integration is to be conducted, including the finality of the arbitrator's ruling, and also how furloughs will take place. I am looking forward to how the USAPA lawyers are going to argue that the transition agreement which their client signed and agreed to no longer applies. A ruling in favor of the west will repudiate basically every tenet USAPA was created on.
I predict these two legal claims will be short lived law suites because it is very black and white. The transition agreement is very specific how the seniority integration is to be conducted, including the finality of the arbitrator's ruling, and also how furloughs will take place. I am looking forward to how the USAPA lawyers are going to argue that the transition agreement which their client signed and agreed to no longer applies. A ruling in favor of the west will repudiate basically every tenet USAPA was created on.
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The intent of the transition agreement is to facilitate the merger between two pilot groups. In it details about fleet counts, furlough protection, CBA voting and seniority integration among others are spelled out in detail. The lawsuit brought about by the west will allow the transition agreement between AWA and AAA to be presented before a federal judge in a court of law. This will preserve the integrity of the agreement by all three parties and allow for a definitive answer as to whether USAPA can actually make arbitrary changes to it without consulting anyone. USAPA's biggest obstacle will be to argue that "final and binding" in the agreement THEY agreed to no longer applies.
I predict these two legal claims will be short lived law suites because it is very black and white. The transition agreement is very specific how the seniority integration is to be conducted, including the finality of the arbitrator's ruling, and also how furloughs will take place. I am looking forward to how the USAPA lawyers are going to argue that the transition agreement which their client signed and agreed to no longer applies. A ruling in favor of the west will repudiate basically every tenet USAPA was created on.
I predict these two legal claims will be short lived law suites because it is very black and white. The transition agreement is very specific how the seniority integration is to be conducted, including the finality of the arbitrator's ruling, and also how furloughs will take place. I am looking forward to how the USAPA lawyers are going to argue that the transition agreement which their client signed and agreed to no longer applies. A ruling in favor of the west will repudiate basically every tenet USAPA was created on.
#27
With our company hanging on by such a thin thread, this labor dispute could possibly spell doom for the airline. The courts need to step in and resolve this quick.
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BTW this whole post is in jest to show the futility of this whole situation for both sides....
#29
i think they should just agree that the callsign should be "usair-uh-cactus" cause that's what's being said anyway
#30
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This lawsuit has very little to do with the company and a lot to do with USAPA. West pilots realize that keeping the company in business is a priority, unlike others who would rather harm the company by playing games with fuel and delays. Now, a little injunctive relief for our West pilots that are being furloughed out of seniority, as well as preventing the company from making special deals like the 6 former East pilots that are going to get to go back East (out of seniority) and bump 6 other guys out, would be nice.
Believe me, this place has gone even further down the white bowl than I thought possible. If there is such a thing as a good pax airline job this is not it. However, it is still better than many other jobs and we are trying to make the best of the situation (while we get our logbooks up to date).
Believe me, this place has gone even further down the white bowl than I thought possible. If there is such a thing as a good pax airline job this is not it. However, it is still better than many other jobs and we are trying to make the best of the situation (while we get our logbooks up to date).