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Old 09-28-2008 | 08:09 AM
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A little off topic but can you cross two different oceans in the same trip? Buy this i mean DTW NRT ATL then say to SA or Africa.
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Old 09-28-2008 | 10:04 AM
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When they build lines they must have at least 48hrs off in base before a change in direction (Trans-pacific to SA or Trans-Atlantic). I would have to do some more digging to see if there is a similar restriction in the construction of trips. In my experience (JFK ER) this does not happen. Trips that have multipule crossings are almost always to the same forign destinaion (JFK-AMS-CVG-AMS-JFK for example).
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Old 09-28-2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
Fatty,

From your experience as MD88 pilot in NYC (lazy to look up myself) ...... what percentage of trips originate in LGA, JFK, EWR?

I imagine most start out of LGA, but can you estimate how much do you need to drive to JFK or EWR? Is it easy to avoid them with "barely holding a line" seniority?


Thank you.
This is a wag, but from what I can tell using the Easybid filter, out of 334 trips in Sept, about 148 were DC or Boston shuttles (Marine Air Terminal), 47 were JFK, and 139 were LGA mainline trips. There were no EWR trips. I haven't seen any EWR trips since the summer and even then, there were like 4.

The problem with the MD88 NYC trips, most aren't commutable for someone not living in the area.

Depending on where you live, JFK is easier to drive to than LGA. If you live in NJ or PA, EWR is perfect. LGA sucks because there are no subways or trains that go there. JFK isn't any better (Air Train) ... assuming you like connecting in Jamaica, NY .

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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
It will only take me 5 months to reach 400 hours ... end or probation.

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That may be true now, but after SOC, it will take a lot longer than that. It only took me 5 1/2 years to get off probation.
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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:20 AM
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And for an Atlanta MD-88 B bottom lineholder you can expect around 14-15 days off working all weekends. Either 4 four days or 3 four days and a 3 day is pretty common. This type of schedule is typical for the bottom quarter or line holders.
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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:27 AM
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DAL reserve for September: One 3-day trip, one 2-day trip, 4 days of short call.
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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
That may be true now, but after SOC, it will take a lot longer than that. It only took me 5 1/2 years to get off probation.
Your off probation when you reach 400 hours OR 1 year whichever occurs first.
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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:35 AM
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I think his point was furlough.
Lots of the guys DAL hired in 01 came back with less than 400 hrs and one year of active service. They were still on probation in year six to eight pay.
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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:36 AM
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I have flown one two leg trip this month and have had eight days or short call this month. Quite slow.
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Old 09-29-2008 | 11:55 AM
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Just so you have some perspective, here is what is probably worst case, most junior case scenario, on a category where we are short (MD 88 ATL)
Schedule for sept reserve (plus aug 31) was 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, 2 off, 4 on 3 off, 4 on 5 off, 3 on. I have been used for trips or short call on every day of availability. I have always had to commute in the day before my first day of reserve due to early shows or early short call, but have always made it home on the last day. I typically got an early show 3 day followed by short call on the last day, or back to back 2 days. Its turned all of may 2 day off stretches into one day at home, and I only had 8 full days at home this month (typically getting back around 9pm the night before my first day off, and leaving in the afternoon on my last day off.) I have accumulated all 8 short call credits this month, and am being flown to within 30 minutes of the reserve limit (ALV) for the month.
Again - probably worst case scenario, I asked/bid for what I’m doing, and life will obviously be easier when I live in base. But IF we do hire I imagine many of the new hires will end up in this category, so its important to build a realistic expectation of what is possible - plus, as others have said, reserve could last a long time with slow movement over the next few years, so best to plan for worst case scenario.
On the bright side, at the current rate, I will be off probation by sometime in January, and I think QOL is better than it was with previous employer, especially when (not if) I move to base.
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