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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:27 PM
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Not taking away from sully that he did an excellent job.
THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY.............THEY did an excellent job.
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:30 PM
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I edited my post, yes THEY

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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:33 PM
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It was clear that she was coached by a lawyer. She has no plans of returning to work and I am expecting a possible lawsuit or workmans comp issue. She was "seriously wounded" later to find out it was a "deep cut."

Did anyone find it interesting that she was 60 feet behind the other two FAs and everything she saw and experienced totally contradicted the other two?
On a serious note, I cringe at the thought of all the lawyers contacted as a result of this incident. I kid and joke often, but I seriously hope that no court finds it necessary to award damages for this incident. It was a happy ending to what could have been a tragedy. Great training, great CRM.....good outcome!

Sully for President 2012!!!! (Skyles for Undersecretary of HUD)
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:33 PM
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But this crew was also very lucky, lucky that they had enough altitude to reach the Hudson, lucky that it was day time, that the Hudson was calm and that the A320 like the E190 must be one of the best gliders among Airline jets as it is impossible to stall. They do not have a stickshaker as it is not necessary because they have a system that trims it to prevent it from stalling so if you trim it up when not having power the airplane itself will keep lowest possible flying speed until it hits the ground (or water) not that the slowest flying speed is always the best glide speed but it takes away the problem of getting to slow and worrying about stalling when having to manuver to reach your landing spot, it also gives kind of a secuirty and gives you more time to concentrate on calculating your landing spot......... .....the system is perfect for landing with no engines. I wonder if the media know this.

Not taking away from Sully AND THE CREW that they did an excellent job.
Sounds like you must have an A320 type rating....

... But im guessing you dont, and are going to guess how easy it is to dead stick a full airplane into the hudson with all that automation that provides you with every answer as you are gliding in to an unforseen situation.

Is it too difficult to admit that another pilot did a great job without saying that the plane does are the "really" hard work?
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by APM145
Sounds like you must have an A320 type rating....

... But im guessing you dont, and are going to guess how easy it is to dead stick a full airplane into the hudson with all that automation that provides you with every answer as you are gliding in to an unforseen situation.

Is it too difficult to admit that another pilot did a great job without saying that the plane does are the "really" hard work?
You, sir......have been Sullynized by 60 minutes
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:41 PM
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You may be right, But i didnt watch it yet... lol, I need a DVR. Either way, Im just saying that its so easy to take eachother down a notch while so hard to do the converse.
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:42 PM
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No, not at all difficult. Sully and the crew did an excellent job and and I also said it at the end of my posting. The result of his and the crews work was the best so they did a perfect job but there are many factors involved in a situation and it takes only to change one of them for everything going totally wrong. I was proud and emotional about another fellow pilot being able to save all those lives and do such a great job together with his crew. I just have not seen anything mentioned about the A320 systems or about how lucky we all are that everything was there to let the Crew do such an excellent job.
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:42 PM
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so if you trim it up when not having power the airplane itself will keep lowest possible flying speed until it hits the ground (or water)
They kept a bit more speed than that until close to the water. I doubt you could round out properly if you let it get that slow before flaring - without power, of course. I haven't flown the airplane in almost three years myself.

I'm sure people are doing this in recurrent simulator and will soon be giving us some "data".
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:45 PM
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Group hug anyone????
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Old 02-08-2009 | 04:53 PM
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Don't be so hard on the f/a in the back. She had a completely different perspective on what was happening. And when Joe Passenger decided to run past her and get the back exit open, and let water in, I am sure that didn't help. Everyone reacts differently to situations anyway. She did her job, got the folks in the back to safety, and deserves that credit.

"Serious injury" is defined by the FAA as "Any injury which: (1) requires hospitalization for more than 48 hours, commencing within 7 days from the date the injury was received; (2) results in a fracture of any bone (except simple fractures of fingers, toes, or nose); (3) causes severe hemorrhages, nerve, muscle, or tendon damage; (4) involves any internal organ; or (5) involves second or third degree burns, or any burns affecting more than 5 percent of the body surface."

It wasn't a term she made up to get workman's comp.
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