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03-17-2009, 05:55 PM
#461
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I understand the premise of being at one code regional carrier and not wanting a flow at your dream job, but it is good for the gander.
We need to start protecting those that pay the dues not the ones who do not. If you want to work for that carrier then you need to plan accordingly early in your career. It is kind of like other associations and professions. It adds barriers to entry.
We need to start protecting those that pay the dues not the ones who do not. If you want to work for that carrier then you need to plan accordingly early in your career. It is kind of like other associations and professions. It adds barriers to entry.
I actually like that concept quite a bit. Again, anything we can do to add value back to the seat, I'm for.
03-17-2009, 06:39 PM
#462
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I understand the premise of being at one code regional carrier and not wanting a flow at your dream job, but it is good for the gander.
We need to start protecting those that pay the dues not the ones who do not. If you want to work for that carrier then you need to plan accordingly early in your career. It is kind of like other associations and professions. It adds barriers to entry.
We need to start protecting those that pay the dues not the ones who do not. If you want to work for that carrier then you need to plan accordingly early in your career. It is kind of like other associations and professions. It adds barriers to entry.
03-17-2009, 07:13 PM
#463
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
I hate to say it but I think you're right about Moak. Sad thing is I don't think he is truly unique in that thought process. I heard one of the nwa guys made a comment like "lets be honest do we want to fly 76 seaters or 777's". Like one really has anything to do with the other.
The problem I see is that you have 2 flows which make it more of a sticky situation. It would take you guys roughly 4 years to get everyone over but Mesaba could actually have more guys go per year if they don't have a restriction other than the 9 a month. (I don't know if they do)
I'm not sure if you were talking about flows in the past or just current ones but I guy I knew flowed to continental in about 2 years back in the 90's. That one was quick but then they got so big it made it virtually worthless for the junior guys because it eliminated Continental as an airline they could go to. That one had a life of guys having #'s at Cal to a ratio then pref interview to nothing. What a waste!
During the merger process what were you hoping to have happen with compass? Let me just say that I think delta and nwa completely dropped the ball with those negotiations.
The problem I see is that you have 2 flows which make it more of a sticky situation. It would take you guys roughly 4 years to get everyone over but Mesaba could actually have more guys go per year if they don't have a restriction other than the 9 a month. (I don't know if they do)
I'm not sure if you were talking about flows in the past or just current ones but I guy I knew flowed to continental in about 2 years back in the 90's. That one was quick but then they got so big it made it virtually worthless for the junior guys because it eliminated Continental as an airline they could go to. That one had a life of guys having #'s at Cal to a ratio then pref interview to nothing. What a waste!
During the merger process what were you hoping to have happen with compass? Let me just say that I think delta and nwa completely dropped the ball with those negotiations.
03-18-2009, 03:09 AM
#465
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I understand the premise of being at one code regional carrier and not wanting a flow at your dream job, but it is good for the gander.
We need to start protecting those that pay the dues not the ones who do not. If you want to work for that carrier then you need to plan accordingly early in your career. It is kind of like other associations and professions. It adds barriers to entry.
We need to start protecting those that pay the dues not the ones who do not. If you want to work for that carrier then you need to plan accordingly early in your career. It is kind of like other associations and professions. It adds barriers to entry.
03-18-2009, 03:23 AM
#466
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It is not about that. It is about the guys that do not like flows. The ones that lets say work for Express Jet and want to fly for DAL. It would mean that to work for mainline DAL they would need to go to a carrier that has a flow with DAL, because it makes it very hard to just hire on with DAL.
It was not about the mil guys.
It was not about the mil guys.
03-18-2009, 03:35 AM
#467
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
It is not about that. It is about the guys that do not like flows. The ones that lets say work for Express Jet and want to fly for DAL. It would mean that to work for mainline DAL they would need to go to a carrier that has a flow with DAL, because it makes it very hard to just hire on with DAL.
It was not about the mil guys.
It was not about the mil guys.
03-30-2009, 10:02 AM
#469
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Why?
First I have to say, Why are we still talking about this. I seriously doubt any management agreeing to this. They would loose one of thier most important assest in pitting one group against the other.
Secondly, for those compass folks that think a "staple" is unfair, what would your methodology be? A Ratio? By class? hmm, still sounds like a staple to me.
Secondly, for those compass folks that think a "staple" is unfair, what would your methodology be? A Ratio? By class? hmm, still sounds like a staple to me.
03-30-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotc90a
First I have to say, Why are we still talking about this. I seriously doubt any management agreeing to this. They would loose one of thier most important assest in pitting one group against the other.
Secondly, for those compass folks that think a "staple" is unfair, what would your methodology be? A Ratio? By class? hmm, still sounds like a staple to me.
Secondly, for those compass folks that think a "staple" is unfair, what would your methodology be? A Ratio? By class? hmm, still sounds like a staple to me.
One guy asked a question. talk is almost done with.
Secondly what r u talking about I never heard anyone say that a staple is unfair. A staple is what some people were pushing for nothing else
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