I don't think you could have said it any better. We need to unite and restore our profession.

 

We wanted to call you a professional. Oh well. By the way, nobody stole anything from you, you gave it away. ALPA chose to let scope (job protection) slide for mainline pay (dues) since deregulation and look at where it got them. I don't understand why you can be so angry at the wrong people. It's not immature, it's ignorance. Also, in case you forgot, your pilot group stood behind Timmy against the merger. A few years earlier, you voted lack of confidence of him. Way to be consistent and hold the line.

 

Read your contract again.

Many years ago, Bedford came to the Chautauqua Pilot group to fly the Comair struck work. They could not be forced to fly struck work and it went for a vote.
It failed miserably.

 

320toBearz:

Your frustration is understandable.

 

Calling RAH pilots scum or scabs for doing outsourced flying is ridiculous. Nobody wants to steal jobs but the truth is Midwest pilots didnt go on strike, there were no lines to cross and RAH simply did what regional do by trade, put smaller planes on smaller routes to make a company more profitable. IF those routes and that airline were to have a strike by the Midwest pilots, RAH union and pilots might take another look at doing the flying, but to date the Midwest union and pilots have been too weak to do anything more than whine about it.
You do your part first, then and only then can you b**** about somebody else not doing theirs.

 

That sounds great. However, until the NMB acutally gives some leverage to labor by releasing at least one airline to strike nothing is going to change. How can we affect change when the only option is to get fired? So let say RAH pilots took the high road and refused the Midwest flying. They get fired. Thanks for thaking the high road guys, good luck getting another job. Which airline interview panel will hire a pilot who refused to work without being backed by the contract or union? Essentially what you are asking is for some pilots to sacrafice their carrers for other pilots. Noble, but is it worth merely a pat on the back?

Instead of blaming one another we need to put more effort in drafting stronger language in our CBA's and get the unions working on congress to reverse the favortism of the NMB.

 

I don't think MKE to DEN and every other Midwest route RAH is flying is considered "small".

 

I guess it bears repeating:

THERE WAS NO STRIKE AT MIDWEST

If any of the (understandably) angry MidEx pilots would like to claim that the RAH group are scabs, line crossers, or anything of the sort, the example you cited shows what could be expected from the RAH group if they'd had any legal means to refuse the flying.

MidEx pilots had no legal basis to strike. They would have lost their jobs.
RAH pilots had no legal basis to refuse the work. They would have lost their jobs.

How is this the result of anything other than management taking every legal advantage they could find to ignore the pilot groups? The fact that we can do no better than point the finger at other pilots in reaction to such management practices is a shining example of how utterly fragmented and impotent we are as a labor group. Frankly, we're getting exactly what we're capable of negotiating for. Nothing.

 

The 50 seat RJ is a financial submarine with oil over $50 per barrel. The only way regionals can do it cheaper is to get bigger aircraft (100+ seats).

If this happens management will constantly move flying to the cheapest regional and pilots will have to chase after jobs. The legacy carriers will be cut in half and the good flying jobs will be gone.

 

Midwest had scope language approved by ALPA. The problem is ALPA is a very weak union and will lead the airline pilot industry to the bottom of the economic ladder. Look how far the profession has dropped in the last 20 yrs!

All Airline Pilots need to push for legacy carriers to own the large RJ flying.