AMR walks out on Pilot negotiations
04-03-2009 | 06:32 AM
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I realize I could get flamed here for saying this and want to point out that I am no defendant of ridiculous bonuses...but isn't that argument exactly what everyone on here hates about the pilot group? Blasting the guy that is willing to work for less and lowers the bar for the rest? We all hate the guy who goes non-union and will work for table scraps so it just seems to me that this statement is a little hypocritical in a sense.
04-03-2009 | 06:58 AM
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From: Maddog FO
Table scraps for an AA exec is still more than you'll ever make as a pilot, no matter who you fly for..
04-03-2009 | 07:08 AM
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Hold the line! Dont give up on scope!
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04-03-2009 | 08:36 AM
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I realize I could get flamed here for saying this and want to point out that I am no defendant of ridiculous bonuses...but isn't that argument exactly what everyone on here hates about the pilot group? Blasting the guy that is willing to work for less and lowers the bar for the rest? We all hate the guy who goes non-union and will work for table scraps so it just seems to me that this statement is a little hypocritical in a sense.
Carl
04-03-2009 | 09:16 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Yes the APA needs to be hard negotiators, be firm... be like this guy (got to read the captions) especially the note about the shoes....
YouTube - ENZYTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Unw...om=PL&index=23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC5Ls...CF4D1&index=25
Notice the Captain and FO's salute in the last video.
YouTube - ENZYTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Unw...om=PL&index=23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC5Ls...CF4D1&index=25
Notice the Captain and FO's salute in the last video.
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04-03-2009 | 03:23 PM
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Come on guys! Keep strong and focused...dont budge! Get what you are worth!
04-03-2009 | 03:29 PM
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From: Left Seat, Toyota Tacoma
Interesting lines being drawn on the APA scope debate.
According to management's posting, American is basically looking for Delta scope. Expansion into the use of 76 seat RJ's and deleting specific references to American Eagle, so they can start the bidding (a'la Delta Connection).
APA responds with a proposal that American Airlines pilots perform all American flying with the provision for an eventual merger of Eagle.
American's management is basically arguing the same position as D-ALPA. That bringing flying to mainline would drive up costs unacceptably (or as as ALPA says it, would drive the mainline pay down unacceptably).
For all of us, it is interesting to watch it unfold. As a Delta pilot, I'm pulling for the APA.
According to management's posting, American is basically looking for Delta scope. Expansion into the use of 76 seat RJ's and deleting specific references to American Eagle, so they can start the bidding (a'la Delta Connection).
APA responds with a proposal that American Airlines pilots perform all American flying with the provision for an eventual merger of Eagle.
American's management is basically arguing the same position as D-ALPA. That bringing flying to mainline would drive up costs unacceptably (or as as ALPA says it, would drive the mainline pay down unacceptably).
For all of us, it is interesting to watch it unfold. As a Delta pilot, I'm pulling for the APA.
This profession has already given up too much scope. Look where it got us today!
04-04-2009 | 12:28 AM
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Has either side mentioned "impasse" yet ?
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04-04-2009 | 12:59 AM
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From: CRJ 200 Furloughed FO
Sure - that's all American pilots need. Ten different regionals all running around with "American Connection" painted on the side. Worked great for Delta.
04-04-2009 | 11:49 AM
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Hold strong on scope. Don't let up.
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