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Is Seniority Killing the Airline Industry
05-26-2009 | 02:37 PM
#242
Gets Weekends Off
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From: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
...From my experiences with some airlines in Europe, pilots are more book-oriented than plane oriented (pilot skills). They do not have the skills I have seen in the US. Visual approaches? Not in FRA, CDG, BRU, MAN, LHR etc. Everything is so SOP it makes you wonder if the company has actually any confidence in their pilots' flying skills. When I first started to fly over there with my US-way of doing things, most of my co-pilots had to change their diapers. No hand-flying ILS if in IMC, no hand-flying circling, no raw-data ILS if in VMC. Auto-pilot engage at 10,000 feet and disconnect to hand-fly approaches? Shocking!! Can't obviously speak for all of them, but what I have seen is not impressive at all....
If I'm not mistaken, many foreign carriers also have restrictions on when the auto pilot MUST be engaged after takeoff.
05-27-2009 | 11:26 AM
#243
Snakes & Nape
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From: B-767 Captain
Nothing against Cathay Pacific, but " 'nuff said".
I have a good friend who was a very experienced instructor for a U.S. major carrier (121) that took a contract flying position with Korean Air. The Korean nationals, who served as his First Officers, would come almost totally unglued (his words) whenever he disengaged the autopilot at 2-3,000' on a visual approach in a 747 and hand flew the remaining portion of the approach. After working with several of the sharper F/O's, he said he found some satisfaction in demonstrating and even teaching them that they were not going to crash and burn just because the autopilot was disengaged and an approach was hand flown.
His F/O's were very proficient at hand flying up to 400' on departure and then engaging the autoflight system and leaving everything "engaged" until touchdown on an autoland....no matter what the weather conditions. Hmmmm.....
Oh well....it looks like that's where future training is taking us
G'Day and good luck !!
I have a good friend who was a very experienced instructor for a U.S. major carrier (121) that took a contract flying position with Korean Air. The Korean nationals, who served as his First Officers, would come almost totally unglued (his words) whenever he disengaged the autopilot at 2-3,000' on a visual approach in a 747 and hand flew the remaining portion of the approach. After working with several of the sharper F/O's, he said he found some satisfaction in demonstrating and even teaching them that they were not going to crash and burn just because the autopilot was disengaged and an approach was hand flown.
His F/O's were very proficient at hand flying up to 400' on departure and then engaging the autoflight system and leaving everything "engaged" until touchdown on an autoland....no matter what the weather conditions. Hmmmm.....
Oh well....it looks like that's where future training is taking us
G'Day and good luck !!
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