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Old 05-21-2009 | 09:31 AM
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Hey Spanky189,

If you are bored with the 737 I hear that Fox might be hiring reporters. We can always use more incorrect information that slanders another pilot without someone really doing the leg work into whether what you are presenting is a fact.

Rick thanks for shedding some light.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by supersix-4
12 DUI and the FAA had not already pulled his ticket?

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

I thought one DUI was a carreer killer..
Repeat, Repeat! They are not the same guy.

Spanky189 is the brilliant super spy who brought up 12 DUI's through outstanding detective work and immediately everyone believes him. The problem: Spanky was wrong! The two men involved in two different incidents have different middle names. More investigation may have been beneficial, don'tyathink?

Maybe Spanky should be banned from posting flamebait accusations for awhile until he confirms his sources. The rest of you should be ashamed for jumping to conclusions and believing the first thing you hear.

This in no way is meant to condone the possibility that there may have been real violations at LHR but I'll let proper authorities handle the outcome and wait for the results.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FedEx1
I don't think you can get into HIMS after you have been busted. You have to get into it before....
Not true at all.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
Same goes for the NWA program (from what I have heard), one of the best programs out there. They really want to help those that need the help and it is available all the way up to the preflight check...opps...before start checklist.
DPAC and NWA HIMS program are awesome too. I see AMR's as a little more forgiving that ours. Depends on your perspective I guess.

It is now up to the start of the Before Start Checklist. (Keep job) That does not mean that the FAA will not revoke all of your tickets. They will. You will just have a job to come back to after a very long road.

If you have an issue it is a lot better to come in from the rain than to do it this way, trust me.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleDriver
Repeat, Repeat! They are not the same guy.

Spanky189 is the brilliant super spy who brought up 12 DUI's through outstanding detective work and immediately everyone believes him. The problem: Spanky was wrong! The two men involved in two different incidents have different middle names. More investigation may have been beneficial, don'tyathink?

Maybe Spanky should be banned from posting flamebait accusations for awhile until he confirms his sources. The rest of you should be ashamed for jumping to conclusions and believing the first thing you hear.

This in no way is meant to condone the possibility that there may have been real violations at LHR but I'll let proper authorities handle the outcome and wait for the results.
As I said, there is no way that it would have gotten by the FAA.
If this is his first offense, there is a lot that HIMS can and will offer him. In the end getting caught probably saved his life.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Not true at all.
I'll side with ACL on this one. I believe there is a difference between whether they bust you in the cockpit or going thru security.

If your sitting in/make it to the cockpit your in some deep #@$@.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 10:42 AM
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They told us in indoc that the point of no return was the threshold of the boarding door. Cross that and you are now in violation of the law.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
They told us in indoc that the point of no return was the threshold of the boarding door. Cross that and you are now in violation of the law.

The FAA has and will take your tickets away if you show up at the airport. They see that as intent to operate.
The threshold was DAL's pilot of no return. It has changed.

Either way, just do not show up to work if you even think you have a hangover. It is that simple.
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Old 05-21-2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FedEx1
I don't think you can get into HIMS after you have been busted. You have to get into it before....

That is how it works. The conversation goes like this.... you have 2 options a program that last the rest of your career, you will lose your license for 6-12 months, go to rehab, join AA, then go into monitoring program or your fired... almost all take option 1 immediately but there is a percentage that just cant do it forever and end up giving up the job in the long run
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Old 05-21-2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The FAA has and will take your tickets away if you show up at the airport. They see that as intent to operate.
The threshold was DAL's pilot of no return. It has changed.

Either way, just do not show up to work if you even think you have a hangover. It is that simple.
That is why I am firmly in the camp of just don't drink, especially on a trip. I saved my captains a lot of money that first year by not drinking. Diet Coke and wasser mit gas is much cheaper than beer in Europe.
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