It always surprises me to see comments like that. ExpressJet is not the greatest regional ever.

This is a typical response from someone like your type. When people state things about their company that they don't like they try and turn topic away from what was being talked about. One common thing you will see is the person stating the other people must be so high and mighty and make them seem full of them self. This is a really good distraction method. Nice try though.

Keep distracting people from discussing anything about Republic, by making pointless comments like that. No one ever said ExpressJet was the greatest place to work, but people like you will keep putting words in people's mouths that disagree with you to try and make yourself look the the one in the right.

 

I do not work for Express-Jet nor do I have any particular sympathy for them. My point is being demonstrated right here, right now. Management has successfully split the regional pilot group. CHQ pilots did nothing wrong, nor did Express-Jet pilots do anything to assist in their loss of flying. CAL has successfully whipsawed these two groups giving them both little negotiating power and zero leverage. Nothing will happen until pilots start seeing themselves as one group and start fighting the battles that are truly worth fighting. If we all spent the same amount of effort on changing our situation as we do bickering and fighting amongst ourselves, we might just be able to change a thing or two. Who knows, it may be enough to change the face of the industry little by little. If the regional pay was high enough, there wouldn’t be such a demand for fights of scope clause at the major level.

 

Lol. You must be a joy to fly with. Perhaps you have a hard time reading. I don't care about either company. I used to work for Chautauqua, do not anymore. I don't think anyone who knows me (or my "type", haha) would catorgerize me as "high and mighty." Again I was trying to answer Joachim's question. If you don't agree, then don't agree.

Also, I think people should talk about Republic and other airlines. Sharing information is important. Look at the latest with Shuttle America 175's and the Delta weight increase/scope issue. It may not have been brought to attention till it was too late if it wasn't for this website.

Finally, when did I put words in someone's mouth? I guessed he worked for Expressjet. Perhaps you would be happier as a Psychologist. Take a look in the mirror buddy. Joachim is right.

 

Sorry. I meant Chautauqua is the greatest regional airline ever. Again my apologies.

 

Well said. What I was trying to say to jabwmu, was that when people may say something about another person's company, they will try and say "Well we can't all have the fortune to work for your great airline".

What does that have to do with what we are talking about? It was said to distract people from the conversation.

Well we can both agree on one thing

 

I agree, I have had enough too. I think we should plan for a Nationwide Strike from July 27th through August 2nd.

Of course, the unity among our own kind will hinder this operation to improve our pay and QOL.

 

Only if you say so...

First i think we need to explore our possibilities regarding the RLA. We need to have the same level of freedom to strike as everyone else. I am currently reading up on it and will be writing a letter to congress. I realize i cannot do this on my own but also realize that change won't come unless I/we do something.

 

Joachim,

I truly wish it was different but the reason I make this assumption is because we have enough trouble trying to act as a group in regards to the open-time/furlough debate. Maybe I am incorrect with this statement; hopefully we can one day unite and take action.

In regards to the RLA, I've written to the president, senator, and my congressman and only received a response from my congressman. That is what I expected though. The main topic of my letters were to grant airline pilots relief from the RLA since it is long outdated, and prevents us from achieving what we need. A prime example would be the Air France pilots. It seems like those pilots strike at least once a year and as a result they get what they want and they are treated well by management.

However I tend to think that writing letters (even on a global scale) will do nothing but get the attention of there secretaries. In order to get the true attention of the government we will need to take action as a pilot group (not involving ALPA because they won't support this) and shut down the transportation system for a few days. That’s when they will start asking what do we want.

Most recently we have been receiving this attention after the Colgan incident. I believe next week is a hearing in congress on our pay and duty times. The speaker is a C-130 driver from the Air Force, I can't recall his name though. Can anyone else? I am interested to see how that plays out, and if something will be in the works to restore what airline pilots deserve, and once had.

 

Yes, that's the attitude. Nobody should ever take risks or go out on a limb. We should never venture into the unknown or risk failure. The most valuable and worthwhile endeavors are the ones from which we are certain to emerge victorious. And, even then, what difference can one person make in the final outcome?

Thank goodness Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, and the men who stormed the beaches at Normandy didn't share your debilitating, nihilistic point of view. Your post describes what seems to be a pretty empty and dry way to live. Yes, we may only have one life to live, but if I didn't dare to persevere or keep an open mind and learn from my mistakes, I can only see myself dying an arrogant fool; proud of all my petty, egoistical achievements that pale in comparison to those of men who had to make sacrifices.

 

Martin Luther King Jr and Gandhi were both killed for their efforts. I just want a job that will not cause me to loose my family or drive me to the poor house. If you want to be the hero and blow your life's resources on trying to change the airline industry then go ahead.

I will be busy trying to apply myself in greener pastures. However if you are successful and everyone is able to get a good paying job thanks to your sacrifices then I will happily buy you a beer and express my gratitude.

By the way have you got your private license yet? Perhaps that would be a better place for you to start?

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