Love your wife and kids. Maintain relationships with friends and family. Build a life of value. If aviation is able to fit into all that and is of a lower priority then perhaps you can make it work. It is only a job after all and should remain in its proper perspective.

People love lots of things in life that are not necessarily all that good for them. Most successful pilots that I know eventually had to make a hard choice between what was the best for them and what was best for their career.

Make the right choice.

Skyhigh

 

This thread is about a nation-wide strike, not Skyhigh's advice column. Everyone please ignore his threads. He has over 4000+ posts repeating himself. Pretty sure he will try to argue with this one two.

Ok- back to this nationwide strike of americans who fight for what they believe in....

 

No argument here.

Going on strike is the best advise I can think of. I have already been on strike from the airlines for a few years now. I am the poster child for not wanting to take it anymore. Fight for a better life. Fight for what you believe in.

I believe in living a good life with quality time at home with my family. I expect to be adequately paid and to build transportable value over the years.

Skyhigh

 

I like SKYHIGH's posts. He is actually one of the few people on this forum who get it. Enjoy life!! Don't depend on your job to bring you happiness. That is not where happiness comes from. It may be part of the equation for many, but certainly not the SOURCE. As the very wise Mr Miagi once said... FIND THE BALANCE DANIELSON!!!! The market will take care of itself.

 

Actually, I see it quite differently. Back when things were good with the industry, for whatever reason, it didn't work out for SkyHigh. So, he spent his time and energy here so he could try to make everyone as miserable as he was. Now that things are in the crapper, he is happier because more people feel as miserable, if not more, than he does. When things get better again, you can bet on SkyHigh going back to his bitter ways.....trying to drag everyone else down with him.

 

"NEW YORK --

Fedex corp. is set to launch a multimillion dollar marketing campaign on Tuesday against chief rival UPS Inc., arguing the world's largest shipping carrier is the driving force behind a bill that would make it easier for FedEx workers to unionize.
The bill currently before Congress would switch FedEx to the jurisdiction of the National Labor Relations Act from the National Railway Labor Act. The Railway Labor Act allows workers to organize, if all workers vote on a union at the same time. That has been a roadblock to unions that could not afford nationwide organizing campaigns.
If FedEx Express workers were to be reclassified under the National Labor Relations Act, they could organize one terminal at a time.

FedEx's nearly 5,000 pilots are the company's only employees that currently have a union. The company has a total work force of 290,000. UPS has about 425,000 workers; more than half are union members. Most of UPS' unionized workers are members of the Teamsters.
FedEx says that UPS will benefit from the legislation because it could potentially drive up costs for its closest competitor. FedEx also argues that more unions would mean a greater chance of work slowdowns or strikes.
UPS didn't immediately comment on the

FedEx campaign.
"It's nothing but a back door attempt to make us less reliable," FedEx's Director of Corporate Communications Maury Lane said in a recent interview with The Associated Press. "It's a legislative bailout for a profitable company."
FedEx also warns that shipping rates for consumers will "skyrocket" if the change is made.
FedEx plans to launch a Web site on Tuesday called "brownbailout.com," referring to UPS' nickname, "Big Brown." It will urge consumers to contact their legislators and speak out against the proposed change. The site is part of a multimedia effort, including videos and TV commercials, that will be launched over an unspecified period.
"America relies too much on the reliability and dependability of its overnight-delivery network, and we can't allow this bailout to pass only because UPS can't compete in today's marketplace," Lane wrote in marketing materials for the campaign.
FedEx threatened in March to delay a planned purchase of 30 new Boeing 777 cargo planes if Congress reclassifies the Memphis, Tenn.-based company.
The company argued that the loss of cost-cutting flexibility that would come with unions would make it impossible to afford the planes.
Going ahead with the plane purchase could help ensure thousands of jobs for Boeing employees, workers at General Electric Co. who make the jet engines and workers at hundreds of subcontractors.
The prospect of new unions forming at FedEx comes as the company works through the global economic recession. Thousands of its employees have taken wage cuts or salary freezes as the company faces deteriorating demand. FedEx has also laid off a number of workers to balance waning package volume.
The Railway Labor Act was established in 1926 to avoid interruption of goods transported by rail across the country. Its coverage was extended to airlines in 1936, and FedEx was put under its jurisdiction when it began as Federal Express in 1971.
Similar legislation to change FedEx's legal classification was introduced in 2007, but the bill was ultimately rejected in the Senate."

It looks like things are starting to happen over at Fedex. Let's show our support for the removal of the RLA. Write your legislator to show that you are for the proposal. Consumers are going to be against it because they wan't lower prices off our backs!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060802860.html

 

No. I don't want people to be miserable. My aim is to help so that others are not miserable. In time things pilots will get back to work but I can not say that things will be any better.

Skyhigh

 

This is not about you.

I know you get a lot off personal attacks for the oppinions you have. Still, you have many valid points. Please help the thread stay on track.

Thank you.

 

I agree. Lets get back on track.

You mentioned in your beginning post that the industry needs to shrink. Who do you propose be the ones to give up their dream? Should the newest pilots be pushed out? What about those who can not keep up with the demands of the career such as family men and women?

Perhaps A fair method of sorting pilots out could be to lower wages and make the working conditions as miserable as possible so that only the truly committed are able to hang on? It seems to me that the inevitable conclusion will be a profession that is a war of attrition. Perhaps it already is.

How can things be made better? Figure out a way to stop the flood of pilots. Until then we are our own worst enemy.

Skyhigh

 

Nobody needs to give up their dream. The ones who have not started and have nothing invested will have few choices other than the military which may be a good thing. The ones that will lose their jobs will be the ones with low seniority, including myself. Understand that an increase in airline pay is likely to raise the pay levels of other parts of the industry as well. I'll find something else to do. A piston frieght job closer to home that pays at or above regional pay, is probably what i'll find.

Things can get better if we are free to strike. See the above thread about Fedex. You cannot stop the flood of pilots. Do you rember the 90's? Requirements were higher and pay was even lower than now. What we can do is fight for legal change. I think the Railway Labor Act is a good place to start. .