winglet

Professional MAG Pilots,

Here is a small sampling of the vague, ambiguous language that is in this TA. Voting yes for this TA is an invitation to actually decrease your quality of life (if that's even possible).

A. Lines of Time
2. a. The Company "will use its best efforts" to group days off...
5. Pairing Construction ALPA representatives "permitted to participate"

...and here is the part that will really come back to haunt you:

9. h. Line Construction
"as efficiently as practicable"
"monthly parameters may be changed"
"target average values may be adjusted"

F. Schedule Changes and Modifications
1. c. Pilot will be returned to their original schedule "as soon as practicable."

7. Ready Reserve
f. "Unless the ready reserve period is extended by the Company", the pilot will be released from reserve duty...

K. New Equipment
O. "Where feasible and possible", the Company shall provide crew lounges...

Missing Definitions?
"Junior Assign"
"Junior Available"
"Controllable Completion Factor"
"Controllable Cancellations"

There's more...it just goes on and on. Please take a look at what's missing from this TA. What's missing from this TA is even more telling. There really isn't anything preventing the company from continuing the unbearable situation we've been in these last few years. This TA in no way prevents the six day shifts, high-duty-low-block days, camping trips, non-commutable lines, "improper reassignments", etc., etc...

I'll summarize the TA for you:

"Where feasable and possible" due to "controllable cancellations" the crew schedulers will "as efficiently as practicable""use their best efforts" to adjust the "target average values" and "monthly parameters" to optimize the "improper reassignments". In short order you'll all be "junior available" and "permitted to participate" in "extended ready reserve periods".

Enjoy those two days off per year...

SEND THIS "TOILET PAPER" TA BACK FOR A RE-WRITE! YOU DESERVE BETTER!

VOTE NO!

Winglet

Copperhed51

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Should the Mesa pilots vote yes or no?

Purpleanga

If Mesa goes into BK, do they have any chance of chapter 11? I'm not sure about the details but since they barely own their fleet and it seems like not much hope, why would the courts allow them to restructure?

NoJoy

For more info on this TA go to mesahub.com

Cheers-

RuttR

Who allowed it to get to this point?

paxhauler85

We own all of our CRJ-900's (38), a few-700's and a few-200's.

We've got roughly $50 mil in the bank, but owe over $100 mil in the spring.

Things look terrible, but not hopeless.

rickair7777

I think it's more like $34M in cash.

Also, you only own a few smaller airplanes (like less than ten IIRC).
Most, including the 900's are leased, not owned...you don't get to keep them unless you make the payments, and they do not count as any kind of capital assets (mesa leases are operating leases, not capital leases IIRC).

I'd say closer to hopeless than terrible.

The Duke

Rick,

I've read quite a few of your posts and you seem quite knowlegeable re: bankruptcy, etc. It's a bit frustrating right now because there is this much-talked about non-deferrable bond payment due, supposedly in February. I've heard it's to Bombardier for approx. $100 million dollars. As you've noted, we don't have nearly that much in the bank. Whether it's $50 million or $34 million, we're no where close to having the money right now and will not have $100 million come February. So what does this mean? Is there any way to get around a non-deferrable bond payment? (I strongly suspect the answer is no). Does declaring Chapt. 11 somehow alter the terms/conditions of the bond payment? (Again, I suspect the answer is no). If Chapter 7 liquidation is our fate, it would be nice to know that now so I could cut my losses and look for suitable employment elsewhere, rather than waiting for the job market (both in/outside of aviation) to get tighter as the economy sheds more jobs.

I've actually had a pretty good run here @ Mesa, but I'm not devastated by the thought of losing a decent job. It's all a part of life, as well as a life in aviation. I'm sorry our CEO has literally squandered the near $300 million we had in the bank trying to flex his ego in Hawaii and I'm sorry for the job losses @ Aloha that were the indirect result of our management team's lack of business ethics. Hawaii was a monumental mistake, my fear is the decision to go into Hawaii could ultimately be our undoing.

Purpleanga

And now that a hometown airline in HI has started their own airline service that looks better and cheaper than GO, JO is really screwed. They lowered the prices till Dec! It's just amazing how an area so small can handle 2 airlines, now it's 3 again.

DublinFlyer

Yes it does look bleak. BUT - if there is one thing I give JO credit for, it's finagling money around to make things happen. It may be a lowly way of doing business, but in the end it gets the job done. I think he may be able to scrounge up the money from some place, or in some way. We'll see if he can do it. I'm not sure if filing Ch. 11 will delay the bond payments or not. I don't really know how that works. What I do know is that we (the line flying pilots.... and the FA's and Mx guys and gals) must continue doing our job the best we can, and try not to worry about all that CRAP. If it happens it happens. I'm not going to let the thought of that ruin my holiday season, or my passengers holiday seasons. Worrying about the situation does not help any. Between the Delta case, the bonds due and the aloha lawsuit - we have a lot of CRAP to deal with. Here's hoping to getting through all of it. If we don't, well I've enjoyed flying with you guys, and I'll certainly miss it all. The people at this company rock, and I'm proud to call many of them friends.

Edit: I edited out the "F" word I used twice. I forgot I got a warning for using profanity in another post. I mean are we not adults here?