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Guys,
I was furloughed in 01....just came back a year ago after deferring for a year. This is sounding (sadly) eerily familiar. This sucks. |
Originally Posted by FlyinPiker
(Post 627149)
Actually I think 08' guys are hanging on as well. Don't see how this would effect anything though. In fact it would probably make it easier.
If we are going to be displacing off the 7ER (as is sounds) these guys could possibly go straight from the 7ER to the street without a stop on another piece of equipment (no need to train them for their new position or their replacement). Not nailing the coffin shut that this is going to happen, just pointing out I don't think that particular point matters. We're jumpin the gun till we hear something. They would just need to train a few positions on the 88 and 73N. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 627159)
Guys,
I was furloughed in 01....just came back a year ago after deferring for a year. This is sounding (sadly) eerily familiar. This sucks. |
Everyone take a deep breath - it is way too early to be talking furlough. Consider the following:
1) The down turn has to be considered more than short term to furlough - based on all previous models we are still short next summer 2) We will not know the results of the PRIP until mid-July 3) There a BUNCH of voluntary staffing mitigation programs used in the past that have not even been discussed yet - SLIP, PML, VL, VF, etc, not to mention reduced ALV's. They can also sweeten the PRIP to nab more as well. If and when all those have been exhausted, AND they are still overstaffed, and the capacity reduction needs to be more permanent we might see the dreaded F. At this point it would be a guillotine where they need a scalpel. JMO.... |
Originally Posted by FlyinPiker
(Post 627149)
If we are going to be displacing off the 7ER (as is sounds) these guys could possibly go straight from the 7ER to the street without a stop on another piece of equipment (no need to train them for their new position or their replacement).
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 627199)
I see your point, but they would have furlough around 350 or 400 on the same bid to do this. There are a lot of MD88 people in that bottom 350-400. Although they are cutting back, there is the need to still fly that plane. Either way you cut it, it would take a LOT of training to do so.
And it would seem to me since most of the reduction is international WB flying they would be doing some serious MD88 training. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 627159)
Guys,
I was furloughed in 01....just came back a year ago after deferring for a year. This is sounding (sadly) eerily familiar. This sucks. Hopefully it won't have the same result. :( :( |
Originally Posted by Fly4hire
(Post 627191)
Everyone take a deep breath - it is way too early to be talking furlough. Consider the following:
1) The down turn has to be considered more than short term to furlough - based on all previous models we are still short next summer 2) We will not know the results of the PRIP until mid-July 3) There a BUNCH of voluntary staffing mitigation programs used in the past that have not even been discussed yet - SLIP, PML, VL, VF, etc, not to mention reduced ALV's. They can also sweeten the PRIP to nab more as well. If and when all those have been exhausted, AND they are still overstaffed, and the capacity reduction needs to be more permanent we might see the dreaded F. At this point it would be a guillotine where they need a scalpel. JMO.... |
Originally Posted by Fly4hire
(Post 627191)
2) We will not know the results of the PRIP until mid-July |
Originally Posted by Fly4hire
(Post 627191)
Everyone take a deep breath - it is way too early to be talking furlough. Consider the following:
1) The down turn has to be considered more than short term to furlough - based on all previous models we are still short next summer 2) We will not know the results of the PRIP until mid-July 3) There a BUNCH of voluntary staffing mitigation programs used in the past that have not even been discussed yet - SLIP, PML, VL, VF, etc, not to mention reduced ALV's. They can also sweeten the PRIP to nab more as well. If and when all those have been exhausted, AND they are still overstaffed, and the capacity reduction needs to be more permanent we might see the dreaded F. At this point it would be a guillotine where they need a scalpel. JMO.... |
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