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Old 06-16-2009 | 06:29 AM
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After the government socializes 121 airlines:

Work Rules, Pay, Benefits, Pension and Entitlements will be set by the Pay Czar.

However, you may have to exchange your UPS badge for a Colgan badge if you live in Elmira, NY because you will be required to live within a 2 hour Rail/Car/Bus commute of your base.

and that 20 year s340 f/o from Louisville, will get your cushy 767 captain's seat...

(at least it will end the ridiculous habit of alaska airlines hiring a south florida resident pilot)
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Old 06-16-2009 | 06:50 AM
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Barf. At least AMR is based where I want to live.......
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Old 06-16-2009 | 09:43 AM
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The flight time and duty day thread was closed but this stays open?
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Old 06-16-2009 | 09:53 AM
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Give it time!
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Old 06-16-2009 | 11:15 AM
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Socialized? Let's all fear regulation! Obama is out to dress us in red!

This industry only thrived during the period of regulation. It has been a downward spiral ever since. Heck, regional jets would never have had a market before deregulation occurred. Once deregulation happened, more competition arose. As competition came, air fares began to drop. Revenue margins dropped while pilot wages continued to climb for 20 years. Air fares then dropped to unhealthy levels as larger airlines tried to undermine smaller airlines, with the assumption that revenue from less competitive markets would offset the losses in key battleground markets. Revenue continued to decline, wages went up because the unions still were operating in a pre-deregulation mindset, and fleet renewal and appearances were neglected in trying to make ends meet. Here we are.

Our industry needs regulation. I agree with the notion that air travel should be treated as a utility. What we need even more than duty and rest regs now is regulated revenue. Airlines have not been able to set healthy price levels due to free market laws. If minimum air fares are set by the government, revenues will stabilize (relatively), and the airlines can focus on providing a safe product and and exceptional labor force again. Lack of regulation is why we suffer!
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Old 06-16-2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
The flight time and duty day thread was closed but this stays open?
I'm sure after lunch, one of the "mods" will see it fit to toss the switch on this one as well.....after all, the "O" aka 'fearless leader' and "Czar" word have been used within the same thread.

Keep it clean Fellas & Fella-ettes.
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Old 06-16-2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop
After the government socializes 121 airlines:

Work Rules, Pay, Benefits, Pension and Entitlements will be set by the Pay Czar.

However, you may have to exchange your UPS badge for a Colgan badge if you live in Elmira, NY because you will be required to live within a 2 hour Rail/Car/Bus commute of your base.

and that 20 year s340 f/o from Louisville, will get your cushy 767 captain's seat...

(at least it will end the ridiculous habit of alaska airlines hiring a south florida resident pilot)
Thats funny that you would relate "socialized 121" to Czars, when in fact the Czars were dictators. It was the Czars rule that brought the people to rise up, overthrow them and create what we now call a socialist state. Don't forget that under "regualtion" pilots worked under 60 hours a month and earned "a cadillac a month" in pay.
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Old 06-16-2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop
After the government socializes 121 airlines:

Work Rules, Pay, Benefits, Pension and Entitlements will be set by the Pay Czar.

However, you may have to exchange your UPS badge for a Colgan badge if you live in Elmira, NY because you will be required to live within a 2 hour Rail/Car/Bus commute of your base.

and that 20 year s340 f/o from Louisville, will get your cushy 767 captain's seat...

(at least it will end the ridiculous habit of alaska airlines hiring a south florida resident pilot)

Hey, maybe we should reelect shrub come 2012 and he can put the country out of its misery once and for all. Lord knows he sure tried during his first time around!!
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Old 06-16-2009 | 05:34 PM
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no sweat, my crashpad just became my permanent addres. Problem solved
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Old 06-16-2009 | 05:41 PM
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no sweat, my crashpad just became my permanent addres. Problem solved
I do the opposite now. I put my folks address as my home address. I live in base but as far as work is concerned, I live out of state.

Keeps them from bothering me by trying to have me pick up the phone on my day off to be JM
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