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Old 06-29-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by all4114all
Excuse me Dr Freud,

At first when I started reading your diagnoses of my inability to access my reality, I laid on the couch in simulation of your comments.

Trying to understand your Psychotherapy type approach to questioning if I was breast fed or not type research in to my phycic, I got back up again and wondered in amazement. Was there some type of relevant information, comment, question and most importantly a point in the post you made?
I guess I was confused. I think I was talking about the actions and situation of the East pilots, but maybe deep down, I was trying to ask if you were breast-fed.

I'm going to put you down as a "no".
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Old 06-29-2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I guess I was confused. I think I was talking about the actions and situation of the East pilots, but maybe deep down, I was trying to ask if you were breast-fed.

I'm going to put you down as a "no".
Be right back, I am calling mom right now.
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Old 06-29-2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by all4114all
Be right back, I am calling mom right now.
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Last edited by Sink r8; 06-29-2009 at 12:38 PM. Reason: Deleted "Please say hello for me", because it's too crass...
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Old 06-29-2009 | 12:45 PM
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Just curious if USAirways east pilots have figured out how much they have personally lost in income by not having a combined pilot list and not having the same pay as the former AWA pilots? It is my understanding that it is about an average of $20K a year. I know seniority is very precious in this industry, but isn't pay too?

Imagine how much USAirways has saved? It is in their best interest to allow this to drag on another 10 years.
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Old 06-29-2009 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kersplatt
Just curious if USAirways east pilots have figured out how much they have personally lost in income by not having a combined pilot list and not having the same pay as the former AWA pilots? It is my understanding that it is about an average of $20K a year. I know seniority is very precious in this industry, but isn't pay too?

Imagine how much USAirways has saved? It is in their best interest to allow this to drag on another 10 years.
Yes, a merger would cause a loss of 100,000 a year times 10 to 2000 plus East pilots because there are no protections for furloughs.

Now divide this by ten years, then take ten thousand and times it by.....
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Old 06-29-2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
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Ok, I will say hi to my mom for you.

Now my question is, you are one of the many Delta Pilots passing judgement on Us Airways East pilots on this forum. You worked for Mesa for nothing, bent over for your time and now you are with Delta. Now it is ok for you to preach to US Airways pilots?

I quess you must be one of those victims in life sir.

Your post on Airline Pilot Central Below sir;;;

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I (along with others) was exploited by Ornstein, and a host of others, on the way up to my current job, because pilots at the majors allowed their contracts to be changed, in a way that allowed the transfer of flying from their company.

Had this not happened, a different, and better system would still exist. I could have applied directly to the Varsity, and saved myself the pain.

Now that I am at the majors, it's my job to try to get the horses back into the barn. I understand that. But I'm not at all confused about the pilots at the regionals "allowing" someone to take advantage of them. They're stuck in that position because we (collectively) lacked the gumption to fight for our (then ironclad) scope clauses. It's the lifestyle we've forced upon aspiring civilian pilots."
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Old 06-29-2009 | 01:48 PM
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I fully stand by my previous post, and I have no issues with the facts you bring up from that unrelated topic. I was at Mesa, and I am at Delta. I judge the East pilots not based on my current position, but on your actions.

As I've acknowledged before, it sucks to be in your position, but you can't rectify UsAir's past by punishing the West pilots. I also judge the East side based on your unwillingness to abide by an agreement you knew to be binding. It's that simple.

BTW, my Mesa flying was largely UsAir Express. As I stated in another post, we mainline pilots must take responsibility for accepting scope degradation, and now we must work to rectify the problem. I take it you voted on a contract or two that had scope implications in your time, correct? In this regard, I don't judge you: everyone in the industry did this.

So my bending over at Mesa had a lot to do with your unwillingness to stand up at UsAir.
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Old 06-29-2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I was at Mesa, and I am at Delta.

I judge the East pilots not based on my current position, but on your actions.

I also judge the East side based on your unwillingness to abide by an agreement you knew to be binding. It's that simple.
You did not bend over because of me sir, you wanted something for nothing.

What is the current transition agreement for Us Airways, former Mesa Pilot now Delta expert?
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Old 06-29-2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by all4114all
What is the current transition agreement former Mesa Pilot now Delta expert?
You can be condescending all day long, call me "Dr. Freud", and "sir", or even "Delta expert". The more insulting you become, the less credible you are. Instead, I think you would do well to formulate intelligible questions.

What is your question, anyway?
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Old 06-29-2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
You can be condescending all day long, call me "Dr. Freud", and "sir", or even "Delta expert". The more insulting you become, the less credible you are. Instead, I think you would do well to formulate intelligible questions.

What is your question, anyway?
What is the current transition agreement for Us Airways, former Mesa Pilot now Delta expert?
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