Respect my Authority??? (UAL)
#21
Gets Weekends Off
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Yeah, I know every Captain would like to have a little John Wayne in them and at times take some crewmembers by the collar and slap some sense into them (ala “The High and the Mighty”)… but come on folks back to reality. It seems as if the skipper went a bit over the top on this one. If he stalwartly felt the Purser to be inadequate and or noncompliant, as PIC of the entire crew, he should have given one of the F/As an infield promotion. Then he and those F/Os present during the incident prepare an in-flight incident report to be submitted to the C/P and C/FA for review and disciplinary actions .
Then let the fur fly after all the fare paying passengers and other crewmembers arrived at their intended destination… without any inconvenient diversions.
PPRune, a counterpart to APC is running a thread on this subject too.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...ad-purser.html
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Then let the fur fly after all the fare paying passengers and other crewmembers arrived at their intended destination… without any inconvenient diversions.
PPRune, a counterpart to APC is running a thread on this subject too.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...ad-purser.html
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#24
lmao yeah this one reason why I'll never quit calling the cockpit what it is. I'm behind the cap'n on puttin the air waitress in her place. Those chicks (and some girlymen) need to remember whose boss.
#25
#26
Why don't we wait until United finishes the internal audit and then we won't know any more than we know now.
BTW, the original posting said the trip from Sao Paulo to Chicago was scheduled for 6 hrs 45 mins....I don't think so. Been there done that and 11+ hours is more realistic.
What else do we want to distort ??
Geez
#27
1. Inform FA that if my order was not followed, I would have him/her/it arrested upon arrival for interfering with a flight crew member in the performance of his duties. That is a Federal beef, so conviction would mean the inability to ever work for an airline again.
Carl
Carl
Have the Purser arrested.....fantastic idea. As the Captain, you can just have everybody arrested that disagrees with you....the fueler, the baggage loader, hey the catering person didn't put enough desserts for the crew.....call the police !!!
G'Day Mates
#28
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Joined: Dec 2008
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From: Citation XLS
Here's what's going around the UA FA's EMail. I have edited full names. This comes from an FA friend:
ok, here goes... this is what I heard from a friend who got the scoop
from someone who called Patty directly.
Ok, it's 45 min into the 11-hr flt from gru and the capt calls back to
the purser saying he wants his crew dec (not gendecs-- crew dec). she
says, sorry i forgot to bring it up earlier, i'll bring it up at the
next potty brk. No, I need it now. well, I'm in the middle of the
service right now, working a ca rt, there's only 3 of us back there.
it'll have to wait until the next lav brk. No, I need it now. Ok,
whatever, she brings it up, and of course there's no one to guard the
door for the 3 person rule, so she slides it under the door. Done.
Well, cu t to after the svc when she goes up to do the potty break. f/o
comes out, she goes in. Capt starts yelling at her so loudly that the
f/o hears it in the lav, the f/c galley girl doing t he guard duty
hears, and the entire f/c cabin hears. the f/o apologizes to the f/a
saying he's been a total dick the whole 4 day trip. Doesn't allow them
to call him by his name (which btw is L.S.) but they must only
call him "sir". sheesh. sounds like a wiener, er, winner.
So later, she goes on break and in the middle of her break the f/c
girl wakes her up and tells her she's got to get ready, they're
landing in 30 min. Well, she whips into action, thnking of course that
there's a full prep coming. Gets on the phone to the cockpit "do you
want to do this over the phone, or should I go up there?" "No, you've
been relieved of your duties, I am not speaking to you anymore" He
gets on the pa, "ladies and gentlemen, we are landing in mia in 30
min" Period. (heard from someone else that he refused to go to mco
where there are ual pe rsonnel, don't know about that) In the meantime,
the crew (other than the purser and f/c girl) didn't know a thing
about what was going on. Even the other pilots weren't told anything
until last minute. One was on break. He planned this all on his own.
So they land in mia at 0416 and pull up to the gate, and there's
police and tsa and fire dept all there, guns drawn. They only know
that there's an emergency and the flt is landing at mia at 0416. But
apparently they had the purser's name. "are you patty secrest?" "yes"
"come with us" she goes out on the jetbridge, and they ask what
happened. Captain comes out, and says.......
"She's a TERRORIST and I want her arrested!"
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"what happened?" "She defied the captain's authority. she refused to
bring my crew dec when i asked for it and slid it under the door" the
authorities are all sympathetic with patty and look at him like he's
crazy, but she stays in mia and the flt goes on to ord. they land in
ord and are met by all the ual people incl .
Everyone is interviewed individually and all tell the same story.
(incl pilots) capt refused to speak w/o alpa. he's on suspension, his
licence suspended. Patty lays over in mia, comes back to ord and has
an atty. Everyone was very sympathetic to her. I guess all is ok with
her.
Again, this is 3rd hand story, take it as such, but sounds pretty
scary!!
PHEW!!!
ok, here goes... this is what I heard from a friend who got the scoop
from someone who called Patty directly.
Ok, it's 45 min into the 11-hr flt from gru and the capt calls back to
the purser saying he wants his crew dec (not gendecs-- crew dec). she
says, sorry i forgot to bring it up earlier, i'll bring it up at the
next potty brk. No, I need it now. well, I'm in the middle of the
service right now, working a ca rt, there's only 3 of us back there.
it'll have to wait until the next lav brk. No, I need it now. Ok,
whatever, she brings it up, and of course there's no one to guard the
door for the 3 person rule, so she slides it under the door. Done.
Well, cu t to after the svc when she goes up to do the potty break. f/o
comes out, she goes in. Capt starts yelling at her so loudly that the
f/o hears it in the lav, the f/c galley girl doing t he guard duty
hears, and the entire f/c cabin hears. the f/o apologizes to the f/a
saying he's been a total dick the whole 4 day trip. Doesn't allow them
to call him by his name (which btw is L.S.) but they must only
call him "sir". sheesh. sounds like a wiener, er, winner.
So later, she goes on break and in the middle of her break the f/c
girl wakes her up and tells her she's got to get ready, they're
landing in 30 min. Well, she whips into action, thnking of course that
there's a full prep coming. Gets on the phone to the cockpit "do you
want to do this over the phone, or should I go up there?" "No, you've
been relieved of your duties, I am not speaking to you anymore" He
gets on the pa, "ladies and gentlemen, we are landing in mia in 30
min" Period. (heard from someone else that he refused to go to mco
where there are ual pe rsonnel, don't know about that) In the meantime,
the crew (other than the purser and f/c girl) didn't know a thing
about what was going on. Even the other pilots weren't told anything
until last minute. One was on break. He planned this all on his own.
So they land in mia at 0416 and pull up to the gate, and there's
police and tsa and fire dept all there, guns drawn. They only know
that there's an emergency and the flt is landing at mia at 0416. But
apparently they had the purser's name. "are you patty secrest?" "yes"
"come with us" she goes out on the jetbridge, and they ask what
happened. Captain comes out, and says.......
"She's a TERRORIST and I want her arrested!"
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"what happened?" "She defied the captain's authority. she refused to
bring my crew dec when i asked for it and slid it under the door" the
authorities are all sympathetic with patty and look at him like he's
crazy, but she stays in mia and the flt goes on to ord. they land in
ord and are met by all the ual people incl .
Everyone is interviewed individually and all tell the same story.
(incl pilots) capt refused to speak w/o alpa. he's on suspension, his
licence suspended. Patty lays over in mia, comes back to ord and has
an atty. Everyone was very sympathetic to her. I guess all is ok with
her.
Again, this is 3rd hand story, take it as such, but sounds pretty
scary!!
PHEW!!!
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