What's going on at AirTran?
08-18-2009 | 01:45 AM
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Informing the Public
Boogie, For all your talk about "informing the public", we've had three Informational Picketing events. How many have you attended? Let me guess, you were too busy fetching strollers, pushing wheelchairs and kissing babies to show up, or were you picking up a trip "to help Scheduling out".
Guys like you are the reason this has dragged on for 5 years. Quit being part of the problem, and start being part of the solution.
Mission Canxd
When I say informing the public, I do not mean Airtran, I means as all professional pilots. You need to look beyond the Airtran picture part of this.
I caught grief on this forum for suggesting that Airtran (NPA), a year ago with the last TA, should not be negotiating at that point. I argued we were ill prepared to do so. We should not have been trying to set a basis by which other pilot groups contracts would be compared to (see Airtran does it for this amount of $$). We were not organized nor unified to do that. I suggested that we wait till SWA, Alaska, AMR, worked out their contracts. I knew they would all get better deals than we could at that time. I suggested it was better for us to compare ourselves to them after their contracts were negotiated. I think luckily for us it will workout that way. (Now we can say see Alaska does it for this)
I am not saying Airtran pilots should let the others do the heavy lifting. I am saying we would have done more harm than good as a basis of comparison
We need to inform the public as an industry, not as an airline pilot group. Airtran’s MEC is a small part of this.
See the bigger picture
Boogie
Going Running
08-18-2009 | 07:39 AM
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You get it!!
See you get it!! I agree 100%. I just thought we would be lowering the bar if we settled for less than we are due. A raise for the sake of a raise is not worth doing unless it is what we deserve
Boogie
08-18-2009 | 09:17 AM
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Since you're not on the property, and obviously have no idea what's going on around here, I'm gonna cut you some slack and let you figure it out when you get back.
PS., I joined this board about 4 years ago, after receiving an email invite from another well-known board. There wasn't enough traffic to bring me back often, and I forgot my username and password. I heard there was some interesting AAI stuff now, so I signed up again. I guess that makes you the newbie . .. . things are not always what they seem.
PS., I joined this board about 4 years ago, after receiving an email invite from another well-known board. There wasn't enough traffic to bring me back often, and I forgot my username and password. I heard there was some interesting AAI stuff now, so I signed up again. I guess that makes you the newbie . .. . things are not always what they seem.
08-18-2009 | 04:10 PM
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You got served
Since you're not on the property, and obviously have no idea what's going on around here, I'm gonna cut you some slack and let you figure it out when you get back.
PS., I joined this board about 4 years ago, after receiving an email invite from another well-known board. There wasn't enough traffic to bring me back often, and I forgot my username and password. I heard there was some interesting AAI stuff now, so I signed up again. I guess that makes you the newbie . .. . things are not always what they seem.
PS., I joined this board about 4 years ago, after receiving an email invite from another well-known board. There wasn't enough traffic to bring me back often, and I forgot my username and password. I heard there was some interesting AAI stuff now, so I signed up again. I guess that makes you the newbie . .. . things are not always what they seem.
Well, welcome back, that said in the last 4 years alot has gone on here sorry you missed it.
Since you are a great font of information spend some time and enlighten the forum on what is actually going on at Airtran. Quick quips do nothing but inspire ire, and add nothing to the discussion.
If you think the NPA had their stuff together the last 5 years please tell me why and how.
I noticed you are keeping mum about the rest of my rant. And no please don't cut me slack. You will never be in a position to do so. I do not need or want your condencention. Please learn that people are entitled to not agree with you. I hope you learn to treat people with respect. It will make things easier all the way around.
Boogie
08-20-2009 | 07:11 AM
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Sorry, but between serving on two committees, and working to establish an emergency fund for our two most recent contract hostages, I'm a little too busy to exchange dogmas right now.
Good luck and stay safe
Good luck and stay safe
08-26-2009 | 02:00 AM
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From: KC135 IP
KARMA runs over Dogma
I would love to compare lives sometime on who is busier. Suffice it to say I hope you get caught up. I would like to hear the real story on the latest two who were fired and why they were spotlighted. I hope our new union can take intimidation out of the companies play book when it come to contract negotiation.
You fly safe too. See you in Aruba soon?
Looking forward to getting back to the line
Boogie
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