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alvrb211 08-30-2009 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 670238)
Im hoping they do that again when hiring resumes! There were a lot of Eagle FOs with 3000+ right seat RJ time and no PIC who went over in the previous spree.

Delta hired a few with no turbine PIC back in 2007.

When hiring starts again, even more positions will open up as guys leave Jetblue to go to other majors.


:)

buffmike80 08-30-2009 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 670266)
Delta hired a few with no turbine PIC back in 2007.

When hiring starts again, even more positions will open up as guys leave Jetblue to go to other majors.


:)

really??? even with the new pay and work rules you really think guys are gonna still leave to go where? I have two friends in the SW pool here and even they said they probably will not go now.:rolleyes:

buffmike80 08-30-2009 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by maddogbjb68 (Post 669800)
No retro with out a contract. Why was a union voted out anyway?

To make it clear we do have a contract, each person has an individual contract with the company, we just dont have a CBA and/or a union. And yes we will see our retro pay in the Oct 20th paycheck. And the union was voted down because the pilots felt managment was telling the truth when they said they will fix the pay and work rules, and so far they are keeping to there word, 10 months later we have industy average pay on the 320 and Industry Leading pay on the E190, and more and better work rules to go with it. And every pilot knew that if they did not keep to there word and fix it they could always vote in a union next year. I am personaly very glad the way the prosses has taken shape, because if the union would have been voted in we would have been locked in to our old payrates and work rules until we had a CBA and that could have taken years, this way we have the new pay and work rules and if we choose to vote in a union next year we will be locked into these new rates and rules while the CBA negotiations go on.

johnso29 08-30-2009 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by buffmike80 (Post 670270)
really??? even with the new pay and work rules you really think guys are gonna still leave to go where? I have two friends in the SW pool here and even they said they probably will not go now.:rolleyes:

That doesn't mean people won't leave. We had guys with 10+ years seniority @ NWA leave for UPS in 2006-2007. JB can & will be a stepping stone for people. For others it will be a career place to hang their hats. To each their own.

Cheers :)

johnso29 08-30-2009 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 670016)
Thank you for replying to the second post! Well I wont be getting 1000PIC at Eagle anytime soon! Will have to start worshiping at my nearest temple to get hired at jetblue it seems, unless they like Eagle EMB SIC time. :)

No problem. JB isn't for me, but that's me. I would have liked to see higher raises, but they were still good rate hikes.

Good Luck in pursuing JB. :)

alvrb211 08-30-2009 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by buffmike80 (Post 670270)
really??? even with the new pay and work rules you really think guys are gonna still leave to go where? I have two friends in the SW pool here and even they said they probably will not go now.:rolleyes:

Many are intent on moving as the contract will remain below average even after the upcoming improvements!


Originally Posted by buffmike80 (Post 670278)
10 months later we have industy average pay on the 320.

It's been a lot longer than 10 months just to get industry average and it's still not here!

Lay off the blue juice Mike!

:rolleyes:

buffmike80 08-30-2009 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 670299)

It's been a lot longer than 10 months just to get industry average and it's still not here!

True, I was meaning 10 monts since the whole union vote got put out to the pilots till our new pay rates are in our paychecks. I doubt we would have seen a CBA in less time.

bgmann 08-30-2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 670299)
Lay off the blue juice Mike!


Is that CoolAid or lav juice?

I doubt JetBlue will pick up Eagle SIC (if/when they do hire) as there are several pilots furloughed with likely more experience. Unless, JB specifically like Eagles training, which some airlines do. I'm dusting off my Bible.

greedyairlineexec 08-30-2009 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by buffmike80 (Post 670278)
To make it clear we do have a contract, each person has an individual contract with the company, we just dont have a CBA and/or a union. And yes we will see our retro pay in the Oct 20th paycheck. And the union was voted down because the pilots felt managment was telling the truth when they said they will fix the pay and work rules, and so far they are keeping to there word, 10 months later we have industy average pay on the 320 and Industry Leading pay on the E190, and more and better work rules to go with it. And every pilot knew that if they did not keep to there word and fix it they could always vote in a union next year. I am personaly very glad the way the prosses has taken shape, because if the union would have been voted in we would have been locked in to our old payrates and work rules until we had a CBA and that could have taken years, this way we have the new pay and work rules and if we choose to vote in a union next year we will be locked into these new rates and rules while the CBA negotiations go on.



what work rules Mike? we have nothing but FAAR as far as work rules go and they suck more than at any regional. The new "improvements"we have not seen will fall outide our Employment contract, wich means they can be cange at will.

How about retirement? any news on that?
how about a real LOL (LOSS OF LICENSE) with continuation of medical coverage after you become dissable?
How about medical insurance that is not worse than wal-marts?
how about real merger language?
how about real scope language?

those are some of the reasons guys will still go to the majors. We are a regional airline, not a carrer destination airline. wake up.

ERJ135 08-30-2009 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 670433)
Is that CoolAid or lav juice?

I doubt JetBlue will pick up Eagle SIC (if/when they do hire) as there are several pilots furloughed with likely more experience. Unless, JB specifically like Eagles training, which some airlines do. I'm dusting off my Bible.

I actually did hear that someone on the hiring board is an ex Eagle guy. Not sure if its true or not.


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