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Old 09-19-2009 | 10:02 AM
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Haha, so does SWA get stapled since that is how they wanted to merge with frontier?
Turnabout is fair play...

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Old 09-20-2009 | 02:25 PM
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The seniorty list integration would be a piece of cake--it's reconciling the taxi speed that would end up in binding arbitration....
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Old 09-22-2009 | 10:06 AM
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Looks like the other gorilla is stirring a little:

United to Add Duluth, Asheville and Midland/Odessa to Global Network, Boost Flights at Chicago, Denver and Los Angeles Hubs - Yahoo! Finance

Not enough to show it's awake, but enough to show it still cares about Chicago. This dangerous game of tit-for-tat has finally escalated, to the point where 50-seaters are being deployed to Duluth...
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Old 09-22-2009 | 10:11 AM
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On a slightly more serious note, I'm not sure I understand why AMR went for more debt, and especially why it felt obligated to issue more stock. They say this should put to rest any liquidity questions. Funny, but it doesn't look like that to me at all: it looks more like a sign of desperation. How is 2.9 million not enough for everything they wanted to do? I realize a lot of that is fleet financing, not cash, but I think they still got 1.25 billion. So, how is 1.25 billion not enough?

I'm mostly unhappy about the stock dilution, but I'm also puzzled.
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Old 09-22-2009 | 10:58 AM
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On a slightly more serious note, I'm not sure I understand why AMR went for more debt, and especially why it felt obligated to issue more stock. They say this should put to rest any liquidity questions. Funny, but it doesn't look like that to me at all: it looks more like a sign of desperation. How is 2.9 million not enough for everything they wanted to do? I realize a lot of that is fleet financing, not cash, but I think they still got 1.25 billion. So, how is 1.25 billion not enough?

I'm mostly unhappy about the stock dilution, but I'm also puzzled.
2.9 Billion (not million), and then stock offering for more cash..... Looks like someone is about to go off on a spending spree... Things that make you go hmmm.

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Old 09-22-2009 | 11:46 AM
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Of course, some things make you go aaaaaaaaargh.

But I agree: looks like a potential spending spree. Although, "spree" sounds gleeful. This may be more of a binge, to keep JAL in oenworld, or one to inherit LCC. A binge leaves you feeling hungover, while a spree leaves you feeling rather satisfied.

And if we manage to return the favor on the TransAtlantic Pan Am binge that Crandall tricked Ron Allen into, well, it's all in good fun (I'm talking about the price tag, not questionning the acquisition).
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Old 09-22-2009 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Of course, some things make you go aaaaaaaaargh.

But I agree: looks like a potential spending spree. Although, "spree" sounds gleeful. This may be more of a binge, to keep JAL in oenworld, or one to inherit LCC. A binge leaves you feeling hungover, while a spree leaves you feeling rather satisfied.

And if we manage to return the favor on the TransAtlantic Pan Am binge that Crandall tricked Ron Allen into, well, it's all in good fun (I'm talking about the price tag, not questionning the acquisition).
I could not have said that any better myself... My only fear is every time AMR binges, they purge later.

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Old 09-22-2009 | 04:45 PM
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Now it's UsAirways...

US Airways sells 26.3 million shares to Citi - Yahoo! Finance

Will the new combined entity actually be called CitiAirlines, or will it retain the A'A name?
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Old 09-22-2009 | 05:56 PM
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I don't think there is a spending spree in AMR's future.I tend to think there will be an investment of some variety in JAL and the rest will be to help them through the long cold winter facing the industry.
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Old 09-23-2009 | 08:00 AM
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AMR is back up to about $5 billion in the cash column. I guess that should about cover the signing bonus for the APA contract
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