Northwest jet overshoots Minneapolis airport
10-22-2009, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH
The word we heard from MSP center this evening was that the NW flight was out of radio contact from California all the way to Minnesota. I find that hard to believe - surely they would have scrambled fighters to see what was going on after an hour or two.
Thank God for ASAP, huh? I wonder what the public will think when they hear all about how that works, now that we have two flights in two days whose crews jobs will be saved by it.
Thank God for ASAP, huh? I wonder what the public will think when they hear all about how that works, now that we have two flights in two days whose crews jobs will be saved by it.
10-22-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Wait for the details.
10-22-2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Why is it that when a commuter pilot does the same thing they are crucified not only here, but on the flight deck when the "experienced" Major Airline Pilot berates the "lowly" commuter pilot as he asks for a ride home!
10-22-2009, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You do know Elvis is dead, don't you? Good grief.
Heard Micheal Jackson might be dead, too.
10-22-2009, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH
The word we heard from MSP center this evening was that the NW flight was out of radio contact from California all the way to Minnesota. I find that hard to believe - surely they would have scrambled fighters to see what was going on after an hour or two.
Thank God for ASAP, huh? I wonder what the public will think when they hear all about how that works, now that we have two flights in two days whose crews jobs will be saved by it.
Thank God for ASAP, huh? I wonder what the public will think when they hear all about how that works, now that we have two flights in two days whose crews jobs will be saved by it.
10-22-2009, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Why is it that when a commuter pilot does the same thing they are crucified not only here, but on the flight deck when the "experienced" Major Airline Pilot berates the "lowly" commuter pilot as he asks for a ride home!
Originally Posted by xtreme
Cause sully said so.
Plenty of people on the other threads say the same thing.
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10-23-2009, 01:01 AM
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If the crew fell asleep (both of them) they should be fired and never work in this business again. Period. If they were arguing so much that they didn't hear center calling for their descent for 150 miles they should be fired. Period. If they dropped their headset on the floor and didn't notice for a long time they should be fired. Period.
I see a lot of talk on these forums about being professional. I have seen from time to time someone be tired in the cockpit. When One is tired, and the other notices, you either wake their ass up or realize your are betting your career on the fact that you can stay awake. I don't want to make that bet ever.
This has nothing to do with Military/Civilian or Commuter/Mainline. They F*cked up just like the idiots that landed on a Taxi Way. They should be fired too. A little accountability in our profession would go a long way. An honest mistake is one thing, negligence is another.
I guess some people don't want to hear that some people in our line of work shouldn't be here and should be FIRED.
Kharma just dictated that I will land on a taxiway next week, and yes I should be fired.
I see a lot of talk on these forums about being professional. I have seen from time to time someone be tired in the cockpit. When One is tired, and the other notices, you either wake their ass up or realize your are betting your career on the fact that you can stay awake. I don't want to make that bet ever.
This has nothing to do with Military/Civilian or Commuter/Mainline. They F*cked up just like the idiots that landed on a Taxi Way. They should be fired too. A little accountability in our profession would go a long way. An honest mistake is one thing, negligence is another.
I guess some people don't want to hear that some people in our line of work shouldn't be here and should be FIRED.
Kharma just dictated that I will land on a taxiway next week, and yes I should be fired.
10-23-2009, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by youngairliner
A little accountability in our profession would go a long way. An honest mistake is one thing, negligence is another.
I think people who jump to conclusions without facts have no business in this profession and should be fired as well.
10-23-2009, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by youngairliner
If the crew fell asleep (both of them) they should be fired and never work in this business again. Period. If they were arguing so much that they didn't hear center calling for their descent for 150 miles they should be fired. Period. If they dropped their headset on the floor and didn't notice for a long time they should be fired. Period.
I see a lot of talk on these forums about being professional. I have seen from time to time someone be tired in the cockpit. When One is tired, and the other notices, you either wake their ass up or realize your are betting your career on the fact that you can stay awake. I don't want to make that bet ever.
This has nothing to do with Military/Civilian or Commuter/Mainline. They F*cked up just like the idiots that landed on a Taxi Way. They should be fired too. A little accountability in our profession would go a long way. An honest mistake is one thing, negligence is another.
I guess some people don't want to hear that some people in our line of work shouldn't be here and should be FIRED.
Kharma just dictated that I will land on a taxiway next week, and yes I should be fired.
I see a lot of talk on these forums about being professional. I have seen from time to time someone be tired in the cockpit. When One is tired, and the other notices, you either wake their ass up or realize your are betting your career on the fact that you can stay awake. I don't want to make that bet ever.
This has nothing to do with Military/Civilian or Commuter/Mainline. They F*cked up just like the idiots that landed on a Taxi Way. They should be fired too. A little accountability in our profession would go a long way. An honest mistake is one thing, negligence is another.
I guess some people don't want to hear that some people in our line of work shouldn't be here and should be FIRED.
Kharma just dictated that I will land on a taxiway next week, and yes I should be fired.
My point is, let's not rush to judgement about these guys. There's a LOT more to their stories than a few lines in the WSJ.
10-23-2009, 03:07 AM
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Hmmm. Lets see.... heated discussion about the three S's? Company Policy? I guess their discussion created so much heat in the cockpit that their PNDs went blank.
Not to worry.... these guys will find jobs at McDonalds, or Walmart, provided however, they don't oversleep the day of their interviews.
Good luck in your next endeavours gentlemen.
Not to worry.... these guys will find jobs at McDonalds, or Walmart, provided however, they don't oversleep the day of their interviews.
Good luck in your next endeavours gentlemen.
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