Northwest jet overshoots Minneapolis airport
10-22-2009, 07:06 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by ERJF15
We as a whole have got to get our crap together. Regional, mainline, cargo...who gives a s@#t. We have to do better!
However, (and there's always a however), the airline management, the bankruptcy courts, the FAA, the congress, et.al., cannot continue down the current path indefinitely without expecting that safety will eventually suffer. Keep placing straws on the camel's back one at-a-time and eventually........................................ ............
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10-22-2009, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Am I the only person who actually has guard up and listens to it?
I routinely hear stuff and react to it and the other pilots look at me like I'm crazy. Then I tell them what I heard and their first reaction is to turn up guard.
I routinely hear stuff and react to it and the other pilots look at me like I'm crazy. Then I tell them what I heard and their first reaction is to turn up guard.
10-22-2009, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Spacemann Splif
No jitters, good stuff.
10-22-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Sounds like the crew of the ATL taxiway landing is covering for their buddy who was either in the jumpseat (unlikely) and watched/let it happen, or was supposed to be there, and now had a convenient reason why he wasn't.
10-22-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cgtpilot
I'm with you. All I ever hear though is DL pilots calling ops.
I heard a jetBlue aircraft calling on guard one day a few months back. They were out over the water (Puerto Rico flight maybe) and had a rapid-D. They were at 10,000 feet, and as such, Miami/Jax center couldn't hear them. They were trying to coordinate their position and fuel with a United jet who could hear them. Unfortunately, they had trouble communicating with them because another jetBlue aircraft with similar callsign numbers (who could only hear the United pilot) thought they were calling them on guard. So the other jetBlue aircraft was saying "You're on Guard" "We are in contact with Jax center thank you"
Comical. All the while his buddy was in distress. Good times.
10-22-2009, 07:43 PM
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Another reason to keep the 3-man a/c as long as possible!!
Imagine flying on the back side of the clock every night!!
p.s. - if they were asleep, shouldn't the airbus have woken them up when it landed??
Imagine flying on the back side of the clock every night!!
p.s. - if they were asleep, shouldn't the airbus have woken them up when it landed??
10-22-2009, 08:04 PM
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The word we heard from MSP center this evening was that the NW flight was out of radio contact from California all the way to Minnesota. I find that hard to believe - surely they would have scrambled fighters to see what was going on after an hour or two.
Thank God for ASAP, huh? I wonder what the public will think when they hear all about how that works, now that we have two flights in two days whose crews jobs will be saved by it.
Thank God for ASAP, huh? I wonder what the public will think when they hear all about how that works, now that we have two flights in two days whose crews jobs will be saved by it.
10-22-2009, 08:07 PM
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There's something very fishy here.
I read back a frequency change to a center once and switched frequencies. However, the center controller never hear my readback. About 5 minutes later, we received an ACARS message.
That ACARS ding is loud. I can't imagine that the company didn't know they were flying across the states NORDO and noone dinged them.
I read back a frequency change to a center once and switched frequencies. However, the center controller never hear my readback. About 5 minutes later, we received an ACARS message.
That ACARS ding is loud. I can't imagine that the company didn't know they were flying across the states NORDO and noone dinged them.
10-22-2009, 08:10 PM
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There is no "Ding" on the bus when acars message shows.
Only a "Company Message" flashing on the upper ECAM.
Only a "Company Message" flashing on the upper ECAM.
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
There's something very fishy here.
I read back a frequency change to a center once and switched frequencies. However, the center controller never hear my readback. About 5 minutes later, we received an ACARS message.
That ACARS ding is loud. I can't imagine that the company didn't know they were flying across the states NORDO and noone dinged them.
I read back a frequency change to a center once and switched frequencies. However, the center controller never hear my readback. About 5 minutes later, we received an ACARS message.
That ACARS ding is loud. I can't imagine that the company didn't know they were flying across the states NORDO and noone dinged them.
10-22-2009, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Am I the only person who actually has guard up and listens to it?
I routinely hear stuff and react to it and the other pilots look at me like I'm crazy. Then I tell them what I heard and their first reaction is to turn up guard.
I routinely hear stuff and react to it and the other pilots look at me like I'm crazy. Then I tell them what I heard and their first reaction is to turn up guard.
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