It won't be "another company" much longer.

 

UAL 737's parked....STAR Alliance for CAL is done....now this.....then I saw an article today with Tilton stating that the airlines are building liquidity to merge.

 

Where did you see that one?

 

I saw it this morning ...dated yesterday..very small article...I am still trying to find it, (forgot where it was) but that is exactly what it said....and he was quoted on it. I found something similar..here it is but it is not exactly the article I read earlier...found it on ft.com..financial times.com.

UAL sees scope for airline mergers
By Justin Baer in New York

Published: October 28 2009 02:00 | Last updated: October 28 2009 02:00

A recent spate of capital raisings by US airlines has removed a key obstacle in the industry's pursuit of sweeping consolidation, according to the chief executive of United Airlines.

Glenn Tilton told the Financial Times that consolidation should still play a role in shaping the US aviation industry's future, adding that balance sheets had "probably" improved enough to help finance prospective merger plans. "There is still too much capacity in the US market," he said.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b1d594e2-c...44feab49a.html

 

Thats true, in fact, ANY XJT employee with a date of hire before a CAL employee on CAL's flight will get on first. JUST LIKE A CAL EMPLOYEE WITH A DATE OF HIRE BEFORE AN XJT EMPLOYEE GETS ON A XJT FIRST.

We can go round and round about, and the usual argument of "we own the seats" can be used, whatever. Passriding has NO bearing what so ever when it comes to JS'ing. Do UAL pilot get first priority on USAir JS's? Do USAir pilots get first priority on UAL JS's?

Not every airline has the same relationship with their feeders as far as passriders. Some prioritize their own employees before everybody else. One of the many, many issues of being a former "wholly owned" carrier, as well as the agreements that were set in place when that was over.

Also, MOST legacies have similar JS priorities. That airlines pilots first, then the regionals that feed (in whatever pecking order), THEN offline.

 

Hey, you get some of our pilot jobs therefore we furlough the mainline. What more do you want.

 

Hold on there dude. ExpressJet (formerly COEX) has been on CAL property flying only 50 seats or less for a loooong time, long before there were ever any furloughs at CAL. Our flying has been reduced and we have close to 350 on furlough. So don't get on the 'you've stolen mainline jobs' rant. Go bark at Republic.

 

Kettle, meet pot.

I remember when I got hired that CAL mainline used to fly all over the place domestically. St Louis, for instance, was all mainline. Then slowly but surely a company called Express started to grow. Amazingly we didn't and if I recall right for 7 years CAL didn't hire one single Pilot, (1990-1997).

To get on here and lament that people are stealing your flying is almost laughable. I don't wish this on anybody but it wasn't Republic who started this trend and a good look in the rear view mirror might be in order.

 

You've misunderstood what I said. I never said anybody stole XJT flying. That is laughable.

All of XJT's growth took place while CAL owned XJT. The ERJ's didn't hit the property until 1997. So whatever happened between 1990-1997 was not caused by the ERJ. It was a terribly run airline before Bethune got there. Right now CAL is probably in the best shape of any legacy because there are no RJ's bigger that 50 seats on property, and hopefully it stays that way. If that changes, you have nobody to blame but yourself.

 

Didn't necessarily say it was an RJ issue. The fact is flying was shifted from one carrier to another. Better paid Pilots were replaced by ones earning less money flying smaller equipment. It didn't make me feel any better that a sub-contractor was doing the flying, (even if CAL was signing the checks), as it took away from mainline flying.