Do RJs hurt the major airlines?

If you answered yes...then please answer this...

1. Why don't you guys try to get all the jets at mainline?

2. Refuse to hire RJ pilots?

3. Start hiring T-Prop and 135 guys instead of all the former 250 hour RJ wonder wings?

4. Require 1,000 hours of PIC time in airplanes as a CFI or 135 single pilot? (This should make the RJ operators force pay up to attract more experienced pilots meaning they couldnt just out cheap the majors. Nobody would want to run straight to an RJ if you couldnt go to the majors? It might put things in perspective, maybe?)

Maybe these ideas wouldn't work but I just wanna know what you all think.

 

I agree with number 4) 1000 pic as CFI or 135 and also 3.
1 is out of the pilot control.
2 is to broad.
Will it help yes but when airlines need to put buts in seats they will take any warm body.

 

OO OO I know the answer!

 

YES, it's been beat to death ad nauseum

They can try, and it would be nice if they could succeed. But that cat was let out of the bag long, long ago. With terrible consequences. The issue is now so deep rooted that it's it's hard to fix.

Seriously? You'd also have to define "rj". The DC-9/MD-80 (as examples) are nothing but "RJ's". And before you (or anybody else flames), this has been beat to death as well. They are aircraft designed to operate on short segments where a larger aircraft simply won't work, OR to supplement service already provided by larger aircraft. Just like EJET's, CRJ's, and ERJ's.

Now let's delve deeper. What about the military pilot that maybe got a regional job because the market sucked (or whatever other reason) and is now looking to move on, should he be black listed now because he flew an RJ? What about the furloughed legacy pilot that may have gone to a regional to keep a paycheck coming in, and now sees fit to apply at a carrier other than were he came from, should he be blacklisted as well because he now too also had the stench of the RJ on him?

Again, seriously? Again, you need a definition here. There are PLENTY of 135 outfits that hire "250 hour wonder wings" as SIC simply because meat in the seat is required.

1000 hrs CFI time is good time, 135 SP is better time. But how does that exactly compare to the an "rj" pilot with 1000+ PIC, toss in something like an LCA letter/sim instructor experience. Which candidate has experience that is more applicable to what the job entails at a "major" airline? What about pay at various 135 operators? Some are content to make a career at certain outfits. Many 135 outfits don't pay squat.

 

Yes, they do.

1. That ship sailed a looong time ago. Nothing is impossible but thats pretty close.

2. Pilots don't hire pilots, management does.

3. See above.

4. This idea might be plausible in theory because manangement only acts when there is a cost benefit (except when it comes to their bonuses). But back to the point, this would only work if everyone did it and that wouldn't happen.

 

Not going to touch this. Not yet......

 

Actually, no, RJs do not hurt the major airline. RJs are necessary to carry passengers from small/medium spoke cities to the hubs. If it weren't for RJs small/medium communities that don't have the traffic to fill larger jets would be negatively impacted. Perhaps the question should be... with the current industry set-up do RJs hurt the PILOT profession? After all, we all do the same thing. Part of the problem is that WE foster the division. If that was the question... then YES. If the RJ was operated at mainline, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Pandora is out of her box now and it'll take lots of work and sacrifice to get her back in and get this mess under control. Who's going to blink first?

 

Oh come on, your perspective would be valuable here. And I'd agree with the other guy, the title should be "do RJ's hurt major airline pilots, as well careers of pilots hoping to become major airline pilots".

 

In some ways they might (customer annoyance, possible (unproven) higher accident risk).

Do they hurt major airline PILOTS? Of course, that's their whole purpose.

It would cost negotiating capital (a whole lot of it now that the horse is out of the barn)

Why didn't they do it in the first place? I can't figure that one out for the life of me.

Very few people hold that sentiment, it's not really the RJ pilot's fault. Also who would you hire? ASEL CFI's? Military UAV pilots? The civilian career path is RJ's now, and military rated aviators with REAL airplane experience are going to scarcer as time goes by....

The government will have to force the airlines to do that...I think most of us are in favor.

Most of us are really hoping that the bills in congress which would require an ATP in both seats is going to pass. This is realistic...but write your congressman.

 

RJ's have allowed people who have no business being anywhere near an airplane to have full careers as airline pilots. That is the RJ's legacy.........