Delta j/s and first class no more?
03-04-2010 | 04:40 PM
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From: Jorge Alfa
03-04-2010 | 05:48 PM
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From: right for a long, long time
It is true per the "fare rules" on a ZED. ZED's are technically only valid for travel in coach class. DAL agents usually upgrades standbys if seats are available no matter what pass class they are using. I wouldn't count on it all the time, but occasionally it happens.
03-05-2010 | 04:20 AM
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From: Jorge Alfa
Understood, I though you were saying you couldn't be put in first if travelling on a ZED fare. Thanks for the clarification.
03-08-2010 | 09:22 PM
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From: ANG C-130J (retired Jun 09); SWA F/O BWI (Since May 06)
I buy tickets for international travel on Delta (occasionally operated by a SkyTeam partner) and currently maintain Platinum Medallion status. I was upgraded three times on international segments in 2009:
JFK-TXL-JFK because the flight was oversold and SkyTeam Elite/Elite Plus were given "op ups" prior to boarding
JFK-BCN because the A line/purser was a friend of a friend and had prior knowledge I was on the flight.
Other times, I've introduced myself to the customer service agents, cockpit and inflight crew and not been moved up to business elite (nor did I expect it) but the flight attendants attempted to bring business elite to my economy seat (food, beverages, blankets, pillows, etc).
JFK-TXL-JFK because the flight was oversold and SkyTeam Elite/Elite Plus were given "op ups" prior to boarding
JFK-BCN because the A line/purser was a friend of a friend and had prior knowledge I was on the flight.
Other times, I've introduced myself to the customer service agents, cockpit and inflight crew and not been moved up to business elite (nor did I expect it) but the flight attendants attempted to bring business elite to my economy seat (food, beverages, blankets, pillows, etc).
03-10-2010 | 10:34 AM
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From: Boeing 737
757Driver,
I actually had the opportunity to use the CAL JS over to TLV on several occasions in the past few years. The ride was greatly appreciated and I always made a point of bringing chocolates for both the Flight Crew and FAs. In about 8 trips in a 3 yr. period I was moved to business only once - and that was at the lead of the purser or "A" FA or whatever you guys call the FA in charge. In most cases, the pilots never even said anything about moving me up (and yes - there were multiple seats up front open) - only once did an FO try to hint to the cappie about moving me up and the cappie didn't bite.
Last Nov. the FA who served my section in the back of the bus (who seemed like she'd been at CAL for a while) expressed her dismay at my location and commented on how "we used to know how to treat nonrevs". She brought me extra bizselect food even though I was in coach, which was sweet of her.
So - I gotta say - most guys (at least on the 777 fleet) don't even seem to try.
Look, JSing is a great perk and a free ride would be appreciated even if I had to stand the whole way (happened once on Air Canada - long story) but this is evidence of the further diminishment of this once great career.
FWIW back in the day when I used to JS on TWA a lot, everyone there treated jumpseaters - even OAL- as royalty. From the agents to the FAs, not only were you put in first but bombarded with great chow and drinks. It really was extraordinary.
These days it seems that of the airlines I've jumped on recently, only US Airways and UAL really try to move jumpseaters to first/biz.
As an FO I am somewhat limited in my powers but FWIW I always do everything I can to make jumpseaters feel appreciated and welcome - both pilots and FAs. Alas, with no first class to offer (despite our claims that it is "all first class") that isn't a option on my jet. At least JSers get to preboard and choose a good seat.
I actually had the opportunity to use the CAL JS over to TLV on several occasions in the past few years. The ride was greatly appreciated and I always made a point of bringing chocolates for both the Flight Crew and FAs. In about 8 trips in a 3 yr. period I was moved to business only once - and that was at the lead of the purser or "A" FA or whatever you guys call the FA in charge. In most cases, the pilots never even said anything about moving me up (and yes - there were multiple seats up front open) - only once did an FO try to hint to the cappie about moving me up and the cappie didn't bite.
Last Nov. the FA who served my section in the back of the bus (who seemed like she'd been at CAL for a while) expressed her dismay at my location and commented on how "we used to know how to treat nonrevs". She brought me extra bizselect food even though I was in coach, which was sweet of her.
So - I gotta say - most guys (at least on the 777 fleet) don't even seem to try.
Look, JSing is a great perk and a free ride would be appreciated even if I had to stand the whole way (happened once on Air Canada - long story) but this is evidence of the further diminishment of this once great career.
FWIW back in the day when I used to JS on TWA a lot, everyone there treated jumpseaters - even OAL- as royalty. From the agents to the FAs, not only were you put in first but bombarded with great chow and drinks. It really was extraordinary.
These days it seems that of the airlines I've jumped on recently, only US Airways and UAL really try to move jumpseaters to first/biz.
As an FO I am somewhat limited in my powers but FWIW I always do everything I can to make jumpseaters feel appreciated and welcome - both pilots and FAs. Alas, with no first class to offer (despite our claims that it is "all first class") that isn't a option on my jet. At least JSers get to preboard and choose a good seat.
