Delta j/s and first class no more?
02-28-2010 | 08:37 AM
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Towards the end, coach non-rev was free but upgrades cost $30. Now, what an individual gate agent or crew did once you actually showed up is a whole other ballgame, but the "system" did not automatically upgrade you.
02-28-2010 | 08:51 AM
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In my limited experience it is a f-NWA thing. NWA policy did not allow offline non-revs of any stripe into FC and while the occasional J.S. got in, it was the kindness of the flight crew who made it possible.
Anyone know if the f-NWA Agents are letting non revs into first?
Anyone know if the f-NWA Agents are letting non revs into first?
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02-28-2010 | 09:27 AM
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CAL assigns jumpseaters to coach. If you are lucky, someone will move you forward (if there is room). The pilot sometimes never know, so make an effort to introduce yourself. The flight attendants are another barrier. They may not want you up front where they have to work harder serving you. They've been known to fight the captain about moving people up.
Non-revs and deadheading crews do not always get first class either. Even the pilot's crew rest seat is in coach (737/757/767), but they can move up if there is room.
Don't blame CAL pilots, we will do whatever we can to help you. I wish the "policy" was different.
Non-revs and deadheading crews do not always get first class either. Even the pilot's crew rest seat is in coach (737/757/767), but they can move up if there is room.
Don't blame CAL pilots, we will do whatever we can to help you. I wish the "policy" was different.
02-28-2010 | 09:32 AM
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Hmm... my NWA experience both with Blue and my regional had me in F/C 99 percent of the time.
02-28-2010 | 09:34 AM
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The FA's are sometimes trying to keep Biz-E open for themselves and their friends to plop down in (and eat the food). Captains let it happen rather than work with a team of PO'd FA's for the rest of the trip.
At least it makes me thankful for my wife's level headed, rational, fitness oriented personality. She thinks it is odd that I always come home and thank her for not being mean & crazy.
At least it makes me thankful for my wife's level headed, rational, fitness oriented personality. She thinks it is odd that I always come home and thank her for not being mean & crazy.
02-28-2010 | 09:35 AM
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02-28-2010 | 09:42 AM
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I often think the same when I come home to the g/f... Although I've used Big D transatlantic twice from JFK now and EVERYONE, agents, FAs and Pilots have been great, despite JFK's overall rep. On the LHR flight the Purser moved me up a good 20 minutes prior to departure and the agent didn't blink an eye, much appreciated. By the same token the DL guy riding with me to AUS today said our j/s phone line had much less wait, hopefully that's improving for y'all.
02-28-2010 | 10:51 AM
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Consequently CAL pilots that have tried to fight this understood policy repeatedly, end up being made examples of. Jumpseat Committee? Ha! Powerless. It serves as yet another example of how compromised ALPA is at CAL.
02-28-2010 | 11:11 AM
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there Bar. In my experience, NWA always upgraded J/S to first when there was room available. Not only that, but it was the gate agents doing so. I use to ride on them all the time years ago. Maybe I just got lucky.
02-28-2010 | 11:25 AM
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I would EXPECT any airline to put a paying passenger in First Class over any non-rev. Especially one from a competing airline. That's just the smart thing to do. By upgrading a paying passenger, you can probably make a loyal customer for life--especially one who is already a frequent flyer on the airline.
I understand the "take of of crewmembers" idea, but I would passionately want my airline to take care of those who pay the bills. That gives the employees better pay/benefits and/or fewer furloughs etc..
I understand the "take of of crewmembers" idea, but I would passionately want my airline to take care of those who pay the bills. That gives the employees better pay/benefits and/or fewer furloughs etc..
free and they will expect to be upgraded everytime.
