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Old 03-02-2010, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Beagle Pilot View Post
Which is it, Dirty Rat? I'm not a fan of BB, but it was Midwest management which ran the airline into the ground and Midwest management which sold your airline out from under you to RAH.

All this pilot-on-pilot blaming seems to be just a pilots too lazy to blame the real culprits: unscrupulous and inept airline managers.
It is every prayer for any former Midwest pilot not to have to work for RAH or with you. But, every Midwest pilot should have and will have the right to integrate should they want to. Not all will. Believe me, none of us want to fly the RJ's. We'll leave that to those of you who could not get on with a National or Major and had to settle for a crappy company like RAH.
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:00 PM
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It is every prayer for any former Midwest pilot not to have to work for RAH or with you. But, every Midwest pilot should have and will have the right to integrate should they want to. Not all will. Believe me, none of us want to fly the RJ's. We'll leave that to those of you who could not get on with a National or Major and had to settle for a crappy company like RAH.
Ahh, I see. You want it both ways and to hell with everybody else. Okay. BTW, your anger and self-righteousness has blinded you to the fact I don't work for RAH....yet.

Hopefully you bitterness and resentment of your fellow pilots doesn't show through when you fly as a professional airline pilot.
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:51 PM
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It is every prayer for any former Midwest pilot not to have to work for RAH or with you. But, every Midwest pilot should have and will have the right to integrate should they want to. Not all will. Believe me, none of us want to fly the RJ's. We'll leave that to those of you who could not get on with a National or Major and had to settle for a crappy company like RAH.
You're tiresome RAT. Many of us are here, just like others at other regionals, to get pic and move on. And those of us that choose to will. Despite your assurances we won't. Like every other regional some will choose quality of life over more money and stay on here. Nobody, including us, likes that regionals are doing more and more flying for less pay and benefits at the expense of major positions. Tell us again who is responsible for us doing this flying for a fraction of what was once paid? Only a bozo would say it's us. We hired on here long after our "betters" who didn't have to settle created this environment.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:22 PM
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Dirty Rat,

What would you suggest the pilots of RAH do to help out this whole situation. Do you have any suggestions?

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No they don't and herein lies the problem. From day one of this entire process (we) the republic pilots have been scumbags for doing nothing other then walk out the door and join others without jobs. This is/was our only legal recourse yet we are somehow crap for not doing it. I for one never asked to have our Management go out and further risk our livelihoods by becoming an at risk carrier. But from day one, there have been very few suggestions on what to do about the problems with in the industry as a whole. All anyone does is call names and point fingers, the regional pilots working for less stole our jobs. How about if you wouldn't have given them up I wouldn't have to be working at a regional making half rate doing the same job. I didn't ask for that either.

I was told my earlier comment was below the belt. That's offensive, have you not read what a scum bag I must be for working at RAH. Have you not seen what a terrible person and and even worse pilot I must be. My comment although, seemingly terrible still has a point. The Midwest infrastructure has been devoured by the Corporate Beast, sorry but still not my fault! If nothing is too remain of Midwest then why would the pilot group from Midwest who does not want to be here and will leave the at the first opportunity to do so why are they still involved? Ok the integration comment was a bit much, sorry. But...

For some reason I am supposed to support the idea of putting these pilots at the top of my seniority list. Pilots whom have had nothing at all to do with developing my company or making my career path any better or easier. But too all of you it seems to be perfectly acceptable for me to take it in the hind quarters because someone else had too. The fact that I am even flying a 70+ passenger jet at a regional, the fact that one can be flown at a regional is taking it on the backside enough. Thanks for the forward planning.

The minute things turn for the better the other ALPA carriers will open their arms to the Midwest pilots. They have indeed been the recipient of the corporate greed shaft and can certainly use the support of anyone in a position to help. They will leave, and I won't blame them, I'd support that idea. There will be a few who stay depending on how the integration works out. Soon to follow will be an incident where a former Midwest Captain now RAH captain will decide he is going to run the cockpit like a detention center and the FO will sit back and allow metal to be bent further complicating life for everyone. Won't it be fun coming to work when this happens.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:24 PM
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He doesn't have a say. We came with the sale. He knew that when he bought us. He would be opened up to major lawsuits otherwise.
Well given your legal track record so far against Bedford, I'm sure you will be fine.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat View Post
It is every prayer for any former Midwest pilot not to have to work for RAH or with you. But, every Midwest pilot should have and will have the right to integrate should they want to. Not all will. Believe me, none of us want to fly the RJ's. We'll leave that to those of you who could not get on with a National or Major and had to settle for a crappy company like RAH.

Maybe if the National or Major pilots groups were to stop allowing there companies to send more flying out to Regional Airines we'd have had a place to go. Maybe if somebody (maybe you) would have taken a stand 20 years ago and said NO when companies started sending work out the door because your ego was too big to fly a 50 seater with turbofans hanging off the body, maybe then we wouldn't be stuck at a regional airline. Maybe then this whole damn mess could have been avoided.

Trust me sport no one wants your stink in the cockpit either.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:31 PM
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Well given your legal track record so far against Bedford, I'm sure you will be fine.
+1 nicely put!
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I guess I won't have my family fly on you guys ...... Remember this is a public website.
Think it through,
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED View Post
Soon to follow will be an incident where a former Midwest Captain now RAH captain will decide he is going to run the cockpit like a detention center and the FO will sit back and allow metal to be bent further complicating life for everyone. .
Just wanted to remind you of that. Why would I want my family or friends on your jets when you talk like this on a public site. Your telling the world that you expect your airline to bend some "metal" in the near future?
Lets keep it in check.
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:08 PM
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New name for branded flying. Has name recognition throughout USA. And I bet you could buy it for less than $50,000

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