UAL letter to the ed. on RJ's......BRAVO!
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Round and round it goes, where it stops, NONBOY knows!!!!!!!
As opposed to getting lost, losing SA, failing to crosscheck, poor CRM, trying to climb with the speed brake/spoilers deployed, not arming them in the first place, continuing into windshear, failing to just divert in the first place as opposed to pressing a bad situation, etc.
Said this before, I'll say it again. Colgan was case of a substandard PIC and an inexperienced crew, and it showed. Direct cause-effect situation. And everybody should be rightfully outraged.
The other examples were experienced/well trained crews that killed people. There should be just as much (if not more) outrage.
Again, repetition. Experienced, well trained, high paid pilots can kill people just as fast as those without it. Sometimes it's simply luck that puts them the "live to tell about" side.
Said this before, I'll say it again. Colgan was case of a substandard PIC and an inexperienced crew, and it showed. Direct cause-effect situation. And everybody should be rightfully outraged.
The other examples were experienced/well trained crews that killed people. There should be just as much (if not more) outrage.
Again, repetition. Experienced, well trained, high paid pilots can kill people just as fast as those without it. Sometimes it's simply luck that puts them the "live to tell about" side.
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in reading this makes me feel that you think just putting a pack of chimps or groundhogs in the front would be just as effective as humans, i mean its just luck right.
yes well trained, highly paid pilots can kill people just as fast as those without it. Are you now going to tell us that an airline with all 1500hour captains and 300hour fo's is safer then an airline with all 10k hour captains and 5k hour fo's because the first airline hasn't had an accident yet? Next you going to tell me that Shaq is a better shooter then Reggie Miller because Shaq has a higher lifetime field goal pecentage? Statics only tell part of a story, use common sense.
yes well trained, highly paid pilots can kill people just as fast as those without it. Are you now going to tell us that an airline with all 1500hour captains and 300hour fo's is safer then an airline with all 10k hour captains and 5k hour fo's because the first airline hasn't had an accident yet? Next you going to tell me that Shaq is a better shooter then Reggie Miller because Shaq has a higher lifetime field goal pecentage? Statics only tell part of a story, use common sense.
Sorry, think you kinda missed the point.
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yes well trained, highly paid pilots can kill people just as fast as those without it. Are you now going to tell us that an airline with all 1500hour captains and 300hour fo's is safer then an airline with all 10k hour captains and 5k hour fo's because the first airline hasn't had an accident yet?
Sorry, don't watch basketball and couldn't care less. Use common sense? Sure, if you say so. Maybe if UAL, CAL, and DAL used some common sense we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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The constant rehashing of past incidents and accidents, as far as the discussion of scope goes, is irrelevant.
While I wholeheartedly agree that there are some major pitfalls and gaps in the regional sector of our industry, regional airline pilots have had a pretty decent aviation safety record over the past ten years considering that the regional sector has grown considerably under horrid management spewing some of the worst QOL standards, pay, and work rules in this industry's history.
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While I wholeheartedly agree that there are some major pitfalls and gaps in the regional sector of our industry, regional airline pilots have had a pretty decent aviation safety record over the past ten years considering that the regional sector has grown considerably under horrid management spewing some of the worst QOL standards, pay, and work rules in this industry's history.
Well ok you agree with the rest of us, that people are in better hands with a major carrier do to the fact that the have better luck. I wonder how they determine the luckiness rating of someone to determine if they would fit at a major airline? I wonder what things i can do to advance my luck rating?
Not sure how you're really qualified on what it's like to share a cockpit with me. But there are people are here who have. If they want to chime in, I'll gladly take their input. But your assumptions about me couldn't be more wrong, sorry to break your heart buddy. And if you really want to continue to make this personal and flame me, have at it brother. Won't last long you know.
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Come on, seriously now, don't you know a real man's pilot plays Texas Hold 'Em.
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