Originally Posted by MD80
(Post 781184)
Are you trying to tell me there is no politics in ALPA?
Pilot unions at the legacy carriers have been around for 50+ years and were mainly ex-military guys. They helped build the airlines and the ALPA policies. The military has a good old boy club and will try to support each other. |
Originally Posted by Beagle Pilot
(Post 781022)
And they keep them separate. Look at all the threads where legacy pilots blame the industry woes on regional pilots then go on to plan how they'll take back the flying from regional pilots. The war goes on.
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Originally Posted by MD80
(Post 781184)
Are you trying to tell me there is no politics in ALPA?
Bwaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa Anybody that would say that should be drug tested immediately. The rest of your argument is just silly though. Got any proof other than conjecture? |
Originally Posted by logic1
(Post 781014)
Let the main carrier contract out the express planes...they can take the expense and liability of owning the aircraft and they can make money for that. Make all the pilots mainline...
However, since "pilot error" will always be a contributing factor, mainline will still lose their shirt since they hire, train, and pay the pilots. They need to distance themselves from the plane, the maintenance, and the pilots. |
Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
(Post 781025)
Mainline pilots did not agree directly to keep the pilot group separate but by agreeing with the management to outsource CRJ jobs to various regionals, the senior pilot groups at respective major airlines such as UAL, DAL, AA have in effect created a separate pilot roster.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 781187)
Trust me I know. The simple fact is that it is political. The fact is that the amount of military pilots that will be apply will go down greatly going forward as most will be UAV programs.
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
(Post 781225)
Not really. Mainline did not "agree with management to outsource CRJ jobs"...the jobs and pilots were already in place at Comair when they started transitioning from props to jets...in my opinion ALPA missed the boat completely in not understanding the potential impact of the RJ and its been the dilemma of "the horse already out of the barn" problem....mainline has not agreed to outsource as much as they have been mostly ineffectual in stemming the loss of jobs through scope.
Will US mainline pilots cede more ground to regional airlines? I don't agree with everything written but he does accurately portray what had transpired. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 781197)
I do hope that you realize if that flying is "taken back" by the legacy carriers, it means more jobs at the legacies and that translates to a better opportunity for you and other regional pilots.
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Originally Posted by Beagle Pilot
(Post 781022)
And they keep them separate. Look at all the threads where legacy pilots blame the industry woes on regional pilots then go on to plan how they'll take back the flying from regional pilots. The war goes on.
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