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johnso29 10-20-2010 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 887502)
Shortcall is released at noon also. Basically you are done with all reserve obligations at noon prior to a hard no fly day. You might have to remind scheduling of this fact on a regular basis.

Does this prevent them from giving us an assignment that ends after 12 noon? I would think not, but I was wondering if anyone has tested that interpretation.

acl65pilot 10-20-2010 08:14 AM

Read the LOA again. It is a * day or and MLOA or ALPA leave day. Not a regular off day.

Flamer 10-20-2010 08:34 AM

No, you can fly to 2359. Unless there is IROPS. Which normally means the entire contract should now be used during your next restroom visit.

acl65pilot 10-20-2010 08:48 AM

Yeppers. All they will do is pay you back the off day. No premium pay.

johnso29 10-20-2010 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 887524)
No, you can fly to 2359. Unless there is IROPS. Which normally means the entire contract should now be used during your next restroom visit.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 887532)
Yeppers. All they will do is pay you back the off day. No premium pay.

That's what I thought. Thanks guys. :)

RunFast 10-20-2010 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by smitty145 (Post 887412)
I believe in the past it was only automatic if you were going into a "hard non fly day," and your were on Long call.

8. A long call pilot will be released from on-call duty at 1200 base time on his last on-call
day prior to a “hard” non-fly day (e.g., golden day, MLOA, ALPA drop).

This is from LOA 22:

Short Call
Amend Section 23 S. 9. to add f. and g. (new):
9. A short call pilot:
a. will remain
.
.
f. will be released from on-call duty not later than 1200 base time on his last oncall
day prior to a ―hard‖ non-fly day (e.g., golden day, MLOA, ALPA drop).

Seems to me it is not automatic if you are going into regular XX days or a regular day off if you have a regular line the next month. I may be wrong? Best bet is call the scheduling guys at DALPA, or post a question on the forum.

Thanks for all the responses to this question. As a soon to be commuter to reserve it's nice to know little facts like this...

Razorback flyer 10-20-2010 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 887502)
Shortcall is released at noon also. Basically you are done with all reserve obligations at noon prior to a hard no fly day. You might have to remind scheduling of this fact on a regular basis.


It is supposed to be automatic. At 1200 prior to a hard non-fly day, you are released from all reserve obligations. If they call at 1201, you're under no obligation to answer the phone or report for an assignment.

If they show you on short call that last day from 5am to 5pm, you could give them a courtesy call to alert them of the mistake so it doesn't bite them later, and so they can cover the shift (if possible.) But its not really required that you do so.


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