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08-28-2010 | 06:50 AM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by brakechatter

I think that it is great. Delta is in the process of suing over the slot swap with USAirways. I think this helps the case greatly. Apparently you CAN choose with whom you divest--as long as it is with SWA. I think that a crank has been stepped on here, and it will be good for us.

I hope you're right man, but I think it will be hard.

I just got a building permit for my new garage. They charged me 800 bucks for the permit and said I had to lease the garage one day per week to SWA!

When will this madness end?!?

Carl

08-28-2010 | 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy

I don't understand why you would sell off slots to your competition at a hub you dominate?

My SWA buddie and I predicted this over beers in June. We speculated that SWA would get NY slots out of the CAL/UAL merger, because CAL was so big in EWR. I personnally thought SWA would end up with LGA slots (which they were trying to snag thru the DAL/LCC slot swap). I was wrong, but predicting SWA would end up with NY slots was a no brainer. You didn't think DOJ would approve UAL/CAL for nothin did ya?

08-28-2010 | 08:31 AM

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I don't think that this is over. I'm betting that they're still working on more LGA slots and maybe JFK too. Took an hour to taxi out at LGA the other day with nothing but clear skies.

Carl, I'd like to use your garage next week. I'm throwing a "Welcome to New Jersey" party and I'm inviting Snookie.

08-28-2010 | 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvJockey

I don't think that this is over. I'm betting that they're still working on more LGA slots and maybe JFK too. Took an hour to taxi out at LGA the other day with nothing but clear skies.

Welcome to NY!!

This ain't ALB or BUF!!

08-28-2010 | 08:36 AM

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You got that right! I think that they were launching maybe an airplane every 2 or 3 minutes. Schedules got the delay right because we did show up in MDW right on time. That place is OLD. It made the El Paso airport look nice.

08-28-2010 | 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvJockey

You got that right! I think that they were launching maybe an airplane every 2 or 3 minutes. That place made the El Paso airport look like the Taj Mahal!

The other day we were #25 for takeoff on 31 and as we got abeam the UsAir termial they stopped using 31 so we had to 180 in the line and dance over to 4. Good times.

08-28-2010 | 09:49 AM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by LuvJockey

Carl, I'd like to use your garage next week. I'm throwing a "Welcome to New Jersey" party and I'm inviting Snookie

Should be a good time - and cheap too. Just heard that all the caterers have to rent out their kitchens to SWA in order to get their licenses renewed.

My wife and I were considering renewing our marriage vows - but now I'm afraid of what gov't will require of me for that!

Carl

08-28-2010 | 10:22 AM

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KC10 FATboy

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I just can't get over how SWA has locked up lobbying in DC. How do you get yourself to the point that anytime anyone wants to do anything in aviation (DAL/USAir swap, UAL/CAL merger), part of the price you must pay is to give away part of your flying to SWA.

I've heard that Air Kabul and Air Bangladesh are considering a code share agreement. The price? 3 gates and slots at Kabul Int'l to SWA.

How do those guys do it??

Carl

They've convinced the flying public that they've got the cheapest fares and now they've convinced the government. That's how.

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The other day we were #25 for takeoff on 31 and as we got abeam the UsAir termial they stopped using 31 so we had to 180 in the line and dance over to 4. Good times.

Wait until you have P, G, AA, BB, CC, DD, E, F, D, ... and they pack them all the way back to AA then across runway 4 to B back around to the gates. You'll be about 45 or so for takeoff. I have literally sat at the MAT with our engines off, waiting to see the UAL 757 turn the corner on B so that we could finally see who were were supposed to follow.

Good times

08-28-2010 | 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy

My personal record is #68 for departure in EWR. All I heard was Clearance Delivery say 'Jetlink 1844, you're #68 for departure, monitor....I say MONITOR ground.' Lol, I think that was a 4 hour taxi for a flight to ORF.

08-29-2010 | 06:41 AM

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This seems to prove the swa model is broken. They need business markets and if the real airlines can provide better flight options then swa loses marketshare. No more obscure airports for swa. They need a legacy model to survive.

If it doesn't work out for them I don't think the wake will be crowded.

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