Retirement at age 70
03-21-2019, 08:50 AM
#381
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
BTW the reason you don't hear of military crashes is because it rarely involves the deaths of civilians. The military is about death and destruction in an effort to protect the rest of us. When a single seat fighter goes down it just doesn't make the news in the same way as a MAX.
Originally Posted by Regularguy
But the question at hand of this thread is 70 year old pilots. Personally, as I approach those years, my opinion is we need to move over and let the next generation advance the throttles. To do otherwise is basically delusional and selfish (of course those two may go hand in hand).
03-21-2019, 09:51 AM
#382
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
BS- it should be raised if you can hold a medical. 65 is arbitrary just as was 60.
Anything more than 65 and there better be real medicals by real doctors. Institute the Japanese medical and watch the dominoes fall at the top of the seniority list. Be careful for what you wish for. You may just raise the age and zap your career at an earlier age.
If ALPA learned anything from the last editon of raising the age they will not support an increase. Backing an age increase will hurt ALPA as the troops won’t sit quietly by the side again.
03-21-2019, 11:38 AM
#383
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I think 67 is about as far as you can go without being unreasonable... or implementing truly invasive medical and cog screening.
03-21-2019, 11:41 AM
#384
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Originally Posted by PDRit
If ALPA learned anything from the last editon of raising the age they will not support an increase. Backing an age increase will hurt ALPA as the troops won’t sit quietly by the side again.
How else could a pilot retire on less than 50 percent of anticipated retirement benefits after the wage and benefits concessions made by the members?
Sure things are better, for the moment that is. Pay has gone up... profit sharing and 401(k) matches are up... why raise the age.
03-21-2019, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Fortunate that Austailia, New Zealand and Japan don’t agree with your assessment.
But I was talking about the US... politically there would have to be more screening at age 70, too many folks would make too much noise and the reaction (over-reaction?) would be strong. It's not just science, it's politics.
03-21-2019, 12:42 PM
#386
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I said you could probably go to 67 without additional screening. I know Japan is 67. Are the others as well?
But I was talking about the US... politically there would have to be more screening at age 70, too many folks would make too much noise and the reaction (over-reaction?) would be strong. It's not just science, it's politics.
But I was talking about the US... politically there would have to be more screening at age 70, too many folks would make too much noise and the reaction (over-reaction?) would be strong. It's not just science, it's politics.
03-21-2019, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Well who endorsed ratification of retirement plan terminations? Who said “Better take a pay cut... or else.”
How else could a pilot retire on less than 50 percent of anticipated retirement benefits after the wage and benefits concessions made by the members?
Sure things are better, for the moment that is. Pay has gone up... profit sharing and 401(k) matches are up... why raise the age.
How else could a pilot retire on less than 50 percent of anticipated retirement benefits after the wage and benefits concessions made by the members?
Sure things are better, for the moment that is. Pay has gone up... profit sharing and 401(k) matches are up... why raise the age.
03-21-2019, 05:34 PM
#388
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Institute the Japanese medical and watch the dominoes fall at the top of the seniority list. Be careful for what you wish for. You may just raise the age and zap your career at an earlier age.
Bingo! A Slippery Slope if there ever was one.
Bingo! A Slippery Slope if there ever was one.
03-21-2019, 08:54 PM
#389
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Is anyone in the government actually taking about changing the retirement age or just the people on airline pilot central? If I do a google search all I can find is a link to discussions here.
03-21-2019, 09:02 PM
#390
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Originally Posted by xcop
Is anyone in the government actually taking about changing the retirement age or just the people on airline pilot central? If I do a google search all I can find is a link to discussions here.
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