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slowplay 09-20-2010 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 873656)
On a different note, I received an ALPA e-mail earlier complaining about graffiti on the flight deck. I assume there are DPA fliers being passed around out there? I have yet to see one.

It's not DPA graffiti. It's a couple of different types that one would have thought in this litigious age pilots would be smart enough not to post on company property when that type of material violates company policy.

slowplay 09-20-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 873639)
This is just wrong.

We must get control of the thing or it will just keep growing and sending us the bill.

You might want to do some fact checking if you believe ALPA staff is growing.

hockeypilot44 09-20-2010 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 873662)
It's not DPA graffiti. It's a couple of different types that one would have thought in this litigious age pilots would be smart enough not to post on company property when that type of material violates company policy.

Are you referring to porn? I haven't seen any of that either.

whaledriver1 09-20-2010 09:11 PM

Will back DPA 100%... no more 'taking it in the back' from ALPA national.

Delta Pilots Association = The best interest of mainline DAL pilots.




Originally Posted by dalad (Post 873228)
Exactly, Lee Moak wants to be national president-let him-as the only Delta pilot. Whoever started this, thank you. My card is on the way!!!


Desperado 09-20-2010 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 873663)
You might want to do some fact checking if you believe ALPA staff is growing.


Umm, I think that the word "staff" is only in your post.

1234 09-20-2010 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 873663)
You might want to do some fact checking if you believe ALPA staff is growing.


I am not sure if the staff is growing or not, but after taking a quick look at the consolidated 2007 & 2008 financial reports. The current liabilities for Salaries and vacation pay went from $3,671,679 in 2007 to $6,013,204 in 2008 (approximately a 64% increase). Note, this is not the elected members as they have a separate line item for Members flight pay loss.

A couple of other nuggets from the report:

Defined Contribution Plans
All full-time employees with at least one year of service are eligible for participation in one of the following three deferred savings plans established for each group of employees: management non-bargaining, bargaining professional administrative, and bargaining non-exempt employees. The Association matches employee contributions $2 for each $1 contributed, to a maximum of 10 percent of the covered pre-tax compensation for participating employees.

Postretirement Medical Benefits
The Association provides comprehensive medical and dental health care benefits for retirees and their spouses and dependents.

0RAC 09-20-2010 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 873256)
Delta Pilots Association - Home

If they want credibility, they need to tell us who they are.

The founders have no reason to hide.

Remaining anonymous only creates suspicion and hesitation.
For this effort to succeed, a trusted leader is going to be required.
The Delta pilots aren't going to change unions based on a website.

Florida Non Profit Corporation Search

forgot to bid 09-20-2010 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by 0RAC (Post 873684)

Hell of a first post 0RAC. :D

80ktsClamp 09-20-2010 10:55 PM

Go figure that all this stuff is simple public information. :)

forgot to bid 09-20-2010 11:12 PM

I agree with 80, send in the card and fire at the least a shot across the bow. I agree with Hockey, where's my name going? But sometimes you have to take a risk and its not because I don't like DALPA, I just don't like ALPA.

Quesiton 1, what happens to our current contract and current section 1 if we decertify and form another union?

Question 2, my understanding is that Delta Air Lines is Skyteam. Skyteam is not a company like Delta doling out flying to outsourced carriers, but rather its an alliance that is purely marketing with a Skyteam Central organization that helps manage the marketing. Nobody in that alliance can or at least won't try to find a Delta replacement. I'm going to hedge a bet that there are some contracts there to not allow it.


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