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Carl Spackler 06-12-2015 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by SluggoC17 (Post 1903395)
Can a NH still on probation send in a card, or is that considered verboten?

Appreciate the sentiment...but stay on the sidelines until you're off probation.

Carl

Chuck Essential 06-12-2015 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1903404)
They didn't vote to send it to memory rat. The YES voters voted to say the contract met the MEC's direction. The NO voters voted to say it did not. Memory rat is simply the next step in the process.

Carl

How did the negotiators reach a TA if they didn't meet the MEC's direction?
Sounds like a lot of confusion there in ATL.

nerd2009 06-13-2015 11:41 AM

Vote no on C2015 TA

Carl Spackler 06-13-2015 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Chuck Essential (Post 1903586)
How did the negotiators reach a TA if they didn't meet the MEC's direction?
Sounds like a lot of confusion there in ATL.

It's easy. The negotiators simply sign the TA. Period. Just like C2012.

NYC Capt rep put it in writing that the TA didn't meet the MEC's direction to the negotiators.

Carl

Chuck Essential 06-14-2015 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1904109)
It's easy. The negotiators simply sign the TA. Period. Just like C2012.

NYC Capt rep put it in writing that the TA didn't meet the MEC's direction to the negotiators.

Carl

Oh . . . so just lie about it. You are right that is easy.

I was told that the NYC CA rep left the meeting before the NC actually reached the TA. Maybe the confusion is more in NYC and less in ATL?

thefoxsays 06-14-2015 06:19 AM

Maybe the confusion is the TA sucks.

What is so great about it? Please tell us, without talking about pay.

Go ahead.

MOTOJOE 06-14-2015 06:21 AM

Let everyone know that in section 14 of the new TA. Besides the 15 days sick look back in 365 days. There is also the invasion of your privacy look back. This is retroactive day of signing. 24 days sick in 365 and 52 days sick in 3yr look back. Delta now will have access to all your medical and prescription and anything else records!!! Basically cart blanch to your private life. Vote NO!

Carl Spackler 06-14-2015 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Chuck Essential (Post 1904636)
Oh . . . so just lie about it. You are right that is easy.

I was told that the NYC CA rep left the meeting before the NC actually reached the TA. Maybe the confusion is more in NYC and less in ATL?

If that's the level of debate skills available amongst you ALPAholics, you're in trouble.

Carl

Chuck Essential 06-14-2015 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1904794)
If that's the level of debate skills available amongst you ALPAholics, you're in trouble.

Carl

I wasn’t looking for a debate. I was asking a question and relaying a fact. When I see BS, I will throw the BS flag.
When I was learning about debate the first rule was know the facts of the debate. Another rule was listen to the opposing argument, and when the response takes the form of a personal attack, you know that the debater has no basis in fact.
Ask your rep if the NYC CA rep was there when direction was given and when the TA was reported back to the MEC.
Bring some facts, Carl, and I will gladly stow the flag.
I might be a lurkaholic, and likely a chocaholic, but that’s the end of my personality profile dependencies.

Carl Spackler 06-16-2015 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by SluggoC17 (Post 1903395)
Can a NH still on probation send in a card, or is that considered verboten?

New hires can definitely send in a card and, if DPA gets the nod, will be able to vote on everything. You don't have to wait til you're off probation. The only thing they ask is that new hires don't run for office until they're off probation.

Carl


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