"Latest and Greatest" about jetBlue
01-30-2013, 04:24 PM
#3391
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Nevermind........
01-30-2013, 04:37 PM
#3392
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Nevermind........
01-30-2013, 04:38 PM
#3393
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
Exactly, go back to your airline forum where there is nothing going on. Other than some old gramps talking about where they ate dinner or last weeks commute.
01-30-2013, 04:51 PM
#3394
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
Are you a English major?
More importantly, gloopy gave a nice overview of the futility that is trying to offer a 'premium' product, especially one in short haul or price competitive markets. It's B6's cost structure that has kept them competitive and the hard product is just a happy marketing tool.
01-30-2013, 04:53 PM
#3395
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I still say that the response over time by the legacies and their networks will be devistating to JB, at least in proportion to the amount of widebody flying they attempt to do. Capacity dicipline is one thing, but JB doing something like that would be all out war that could not be avoided.
I say that not to bash JB, as I think SWA will also bite off way more than they can chew with widebody flying soon enough. I have heard some legacy airline execs talking about that eventuality, and their response is going to be absolutely brutal, as it has to be, as it should be. There is simply not enough room for everyone to overfly everyone else in endless growth mode. There will be winners and there will be losers. JB and others have been winners big time for the lase decade plus, because of the collective tailspin the industry was in. That has changed, big time. The legacy airlines are twice as big, billions in the black and very competitive cost structures and fuel hedges.
The "manifest destiny" of the so called "LCC's" will be a decade late and more than a few dollars short.
As for product, MaxJet and Eos had great products out of NYC. Better than DL and AA for sure. And some high rollers did indeed choose them bcause of it. But not enough. The legacy airlines fought back and won, even though they were in BK or virtual BK (AA) at the time. Every airline from start up to regional has a loyal customer base. That doesn't mean they can rise up and take whatever they want though. They will be in for a fight and IMO will bite off way more than they can chew.
That said, odds are there would be a merger +/- a year or two of any widebody AC on property anyway, so its likely to be a moot point.
I say that not to bash JB, as I think SWA will also bite off way more than they can chew with widebody flying soon enough. I have heard some legacy airline execs talking about that eventuality, and their response is going to be absolutely brutal, as it has to be, as it should be. There is simply not enough room for everyone to overfly everyone else in endless growth mode. There will be winners and there will be losers. JB and others have been winners big time for the lase decade plus, because of the collective tailspin the industry was in. That has changed, big time. The legacy airlines are twice as big, billions in the black and very competitive cost structures and fuel hedges.
The "manifest destiny" of the so called "LCC's" will be a decade late and more than a few dollars short.
As for product, MaxJet and Eos had great products out of NYC. Better than DL and AA for sure. And some high rollers did indeed choose them bcause of it. But not enough. The legacy airlines fought back and won, even though they were in BK or virtual BK (AA) at the time. Every airline from start up to regional has a loyal customer base. That doesn't mean they can rise up and take whatever they want though. They will be in for a fight and IMO will bite off way more than they can chew.
That said, odds are there would be a merger +/- a year or two of any widebody AC on property anyway, so its likely to be a moot point.
What are legacies going to do, put one of their widebodies on our new route, even though they don't already connect those dots?
I will let you in on a secret, we won't be doing JFK-LHR or ATL-CDG.
01-30-2013, 05:11 PM
#3396
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Originally Posted by johnso29
What a cute response. I think you need to get out of your mommy's basement and get some excercise.
01-30-2013, 05:13 PM
#3397
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
Yeah mommies basement. I have international experience flying more complex airplanes and doing missions you could never do. The difference is I got here by doing real flying. You got here from mommy and daddy paying thousands for you to fly at a school while I was being shot at. Maybe you should know who your talking to before you run your mouth.
01-30-2013, 05:14 PM
#3398
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
Yeah mommies basement. I have international experience flying more complex airplanes and doing missions you could never do. The difference is I got here by doing real flying. You got here from mommy and daddy paying thousands for you to fly at a school while I was being shot at. Maybe you should know who your talking to before you run your mouth.
01-30-2013, 05:18 PM
#3399
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
Why is there so many non JetBlue guys on this forum? Do you guys just come here to cause problems? Arn't you a little old to be worring about us here at JetBlue? Jesus, you guys discuss me.
01-30-2013, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
Why is there so many non JetBlue guys on this forum? Do you guys just come here to cause problems? Arn't you a little old to be worring about us here at JetBlue? Jesus, you guys discuss me.
Are you a jetBlue pilot yet, or if so, are you done with training?
You were still in the pool at the end of November.
I bet you’re in training and listening to all this brain washing rhetoric presented by company HR in OSC auditorium.
Man, you're perfect blue juicer, you should ask management for an old anti ALPA drive posters from 2011 so you can hang them in your room. But ask your parents before you bring them home, they may not like it.
...you humor me with your adolescent posts
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