Typical pilot, starting out cheap. Million dollars isn't enough to get the answer.

Who knows...the recent numbers of recalls and acceptance has bumped the magic 'we're done with recalls' date back to May 2012.

Figure out the apply to interview timeline, interview to hire timeline, and if the recall rate stays at 35-40 per month and converts to hiring 35-40 per month applications might be accepted around the new year(+/-). $.02 worth of guessing there.

Keep in mind the first words - "who knows..."

Hopefully it all comes together.

 

haha.....the 150 gazillion bajillion quazillion dollar question.
‪Doctor evil- One Million Dollars‬‏ - YouTube

 

This is showing up on the Eagle Side of the house, a friend forwarded me a copy...

1. Every American Eagle pilot who is on the American Eagle pilot seniority list as of October 11, 2011 will be offered a job as an American Airlines pilot in the future.

2. American Eagle pilots hired under this settlement agreement will not be subjected to a pre-employment interview or pre-employment medical examination prior to transferring to American Airlines.

3. American Eagle pilots will be offered a minimum of 35% of every American Airlines new-hire class. In the event that 35% of American Airlines’ new hire class is greater than 25 pilots per month, American Eagle will be required to release at least 25 Eagle pilots per month.

4. If American Eagle loses flying and such loss results in a furlough, American Airlines will increase the percentage of Eagle pilots in their new-hire classes to a minimum of 50%. The meter above will continue to apply.

5. If American Eagle loses flying and such loss might result in a furlough, American Airlines will also attempt to negotiate preferential interviews for American Eagle pilots at the carrier who has successfully bid for the flying that Eagle is losing.

6. This settlement does not impact the existing rights of American Eagle flow-through pilots who currently possess American Airlines pilot seniority numbers, or the rights of the 824 pilot positions awarded as remedy by Arbitrator Nicolau. Those provisions are in place and will remain effective without regard to this settlement agreement.

7. American Eagle has agreed to clarifying contract language regarding the scope of work that American Eagle pilots perform in the event of a divestiture.

 

This is awesome for the Eagle guys! Congrats to all of you, your careers should be pretty good now!

 

American to Split Aircraft Order: Report - TheStreet
"... and announce the sale of American Eagle, the newspaper said."

Who is buying American Eagle? How is the sale of Eagle good for AE pilots?

 

I though this post seemed like BS/a hoax at first but after reading it, it actually makes some sense. AMR wants to divest eagle, needs a contract concession from Eagle regarding scope, so they dangle the carrot of "a flow in the future' to all Eagle pilots and voila, everyones a winner!

 

Very interesting development. Next week, APA and AA start talking seriously about new hire pension benefits--or lack thereof. Not coincidentally, a lot of junior AA FO's returning from furlough are screaming on the APA website, some even advocating that since a lot of new hires will be AE, APA should give away new hire pensions in return for a large pay raise for FO's furloughed during the past 10 years, mostly because it's viewed that their flying jobs went to AE and caused thousands of furloughs at AA.

Up until now, most felt that new hire pension benefits shouldn't be trifled with. With this announcement many could change their minds. Coincidence?

 

Yeah, I could definately see that arguement gaining traction. I could also see the APA newer leadership deciding that since AA just got saddled with all of AE's pilots that there is some dealing to be done here between pilot groups to end AMR's ability to whipsaw.

 

Well since initially 50% of AA newhires could potentially be their Squadron Buds (Eagle's 824 are the other 50%), increasing to 65% "Friends and Family" (Eagle Pilots hired before 10/11 get the other 35%), it would seem that to eliminate the A Fund purely to hurt Eagle Pilots would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

IF on the other hand it is being done to "pull up the ladder, I'm on board" and to heck with the industry and the profession, well, that's ok [/sarcasm].

APA will have to fight their own fights, but could SOMEONE please stop the race to the bottom? I hear DAL perhaps got the ship turning, maybe if we all work together we can actually turn it enough to catch a tailwind?

 

I’m not advocating any “B” scale here, just reposting what is being said on the APA website in reaction over the AE hiring preferences. APA’s official position is to negotiate a deal that has “equal value” to the current plan. Personally I think the “A” plan is over rated and is nothing but a gun to APA’s head if we were to enter BK. Replacing it with a similar DC plan makes it a little more bullet proof, the problem is figuring out, and then convincing the membership, that the new plan is equal in value to the old one. The fact that the whole Eagle nation is now coming to AA makes that job a little easier.

Secondly, the “A” plan typically only provides about 38 to 40 % of a pilot’s FAE, so replacing it with a 401k match or larger “B” fund contribution is to me a much better deal than having an “A” plan. The “B” plan is the engine that drives an AA pilot’s pension with an 11% company contribution, and no one is advocating that new hires not have that. In fact, incumbent pilots are saying if a new plan were offered to new hires, it should be offered to them as well with an option to opt out of the “A” plan.

In the end, there is no “B” scale for new hires, just a different pension plan, and frankly I think it’s a better plan. One could always argue that it’s a diminished benefit, and maybe so, but it’s a much more secure benefit.