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Great Santini 06-11-2011 08:19 AM

And our pay freeze still pays double or triple the rate of the average RAH pilot, so don't throw stones at people taking pay freezes in exchange for ownership when you gross about what the F9 guys pay in taxes.

Kaptain 06-11-2011 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Great Santini (Post 1006719)
Skippy and friends, you're geniuses. Mental juggernauts.

Bedford traded FAPA a pay freeze in exchange for ownership in the future independent Frontier Airlines as well as a profit sharing plan tied to the same matrix as the management bonus plan. It's simply converting future raises from short term gains to long term investments.

But none of that matters. All the Frontier pilots want, and would pay a lot more to get is to reverse the raping and pillaging that the IBT has done to their careers. We would rather succeed of fail on our own than to see the IBT steal what we have earned and built over a long period of time.

Ya ... now they don't have Chautauqua to subsidize their loses. The doors will be closed shortly. I think Southwest is the real winner.. they are the smart player in this mess.

ToiletDuck 06-11-2011 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Great Santini (Post 1006719)
Bedford traded FAPA a pay freeze in exchange for ownership in the future independent Frontier Airlines

Care to explain that a little more? And how did the IBT do anything to your career at all? What's changed because we're represented by the IBT?

Kaptain 06-11-2011 08:54 AM

LOA 67
But remember it says:
The company will make a "good faith" effort to reduce their ownership stake to a minority by December 2014. Right, "good faith" from BB? Sure.

FAPA does not want to be IBT and BB used this to play them.

When the door closes at F9 ...then the F9 boys will start demanding to be on the SLI. You heard it hear first.

Columbia 06-11-2011 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Kaptain (Post 1006739)

When the door closes at F9 ...then the F9 boys will start demanding to be on the SLI. You heard it hear first.

good point. The mec may even use this "backup plan" as a selling point to get enough yes votes.

Great Santini 06-11-2011 09:19 AM

I can only speak for myself, but I can assure you I will never want to be on your seniority list. If Frontier goes away, I will gladly run as fast as I can away from anything Republic. I think most Frontier pilots have no desire to fly for a regional or commuter again. We will either move on to other majors or do something else respectable for a living. A whole different talent pool here gang. Not just a bunch of ERAU grads with no other skill sets here.

Fishfreighter 06-11-2011 09:20 AM

Wasn't EAL pilot's battle cry, "Full pay 'til the last day"?

frankwasright 06-11-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1006741)
good point. The mec may even use this "backup plan" as a selling point to get enough yes votes.

Well,since they can't displace a RAH pilot,they will have to resign their seniority and start at the bottom-bwhahahaha ! Maybe we can give them "preferential interviews"...Bwahahaha ! Seriously,the chance of this happening is just about zero.

cloudwarrior 06-11-2011 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Great Santini (Post 1006748)
I can only speak for myself, but I can assure you I will never want to be on your seniority list. If Frontier goes away, I will gladly run as fast as I can away from anything Republic. I think most Frontier pilots have no desire to fly for a regional or commuter again. We will either move on to other majors or do something else respectable for a living. A whole different talent pool here gang. Not just a bunch of ERAU grads with no other skill sets here.



+ 1,000,000.00%
been there, done that.

Columbia 06-11-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 1006749)
Wasn't EAL pilot's battle cry, "Full pay 'til the last day"?

It was for Lorenzo.


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