The EAL pilots' motto was honor other employee groups' strikes

Then why did you say yes to concessions and the signed off scope lower than 125,000 lbs? You can hand me a C172 and I will fly it for the right wage .. You don't want to fly a regional aircraft ? then why dont you agree to Skybus wages and make sure you really provide BB what he wants with even lower costs..

That is a clever comment. Let's compare a regional contract that was signed in 2003 when the largest aircraft on property was a 50 seat jet to an Airbus operation. You sir are a imbecile. I want you to keep your Airline. As far as I am concerned, you are a cyst on the operation that is known as RAH. The subsidizing of F9 needs to stop. I am done trying to play nice with the ignorant 5% that comes from the F9 seniority list. You 5 percenters need to get together and put all your 2 brains cells together and them come back to me when you are ready to make a stand to a management that has nothing but ill-will toward labor.

Think that ship sailed a while back. Skybus had the worst contract out there and how did it end up? Sometimes a lemon is a lemon. Has nothing to do with the people behind the control wheel, though the integration dodging and concessions does, but the simple fact that Denver is a market Frontier can't survive in. Hasn't been able to for years. Your concessions will not save a place with huge debt, $50 tickets, decreasing market share, and $100 oil. At what point do you actually consider it a "fail"? I'm not saying it can't be turned around but it's not going to be because of concessions. Frontier needs the kind of magic DAL and NWA pulled during BK, WAY lower lease rates and debt/rates, to make that happen.

For once we agree.

Dude have you looked at the seniority list Eichen made? Who argued for that list?... the IBT. It potentially ruined the careers of more than 50% of our pilots. I say "potentially" because I doubt we will be in business in 7 years, but who knows.

You 5%'s at F9 are unreal.....walking around spouting off like you are the SEAL Team 6 of the airlines. Here's a newsflash oh God of the skies.......you don't make much more than any other major/LLC and the Airbus is NOT the Holy Grail. You are a failed airline grasping at straws with this little stunt.

Guys, flame wars on web boards solve nothing.

Seems to be a lot of self-righteous BS from the RJ guys to me. The RJ has SINGLE HANDEDLY eviscerated the Mainline Airline Pilot Profession. Nothing worse than seeing 4 digit flight numbers on the FIDS Screen. UAL is down 50% in 10 years, how about the ENTIRE RJ "profession" walking out to protest the Chinese Coolie Labor provision ya'll work under? Maybe a look in the mirror may be more evocative of who is the PROBLEM in the "profession"

DC7C,

Don't see how the RJ guys are responsible. They never voted on our outsourcing ... we did.

Expecting a pilot to refuse a job won't work, never has. We formed a union so we could negotiate protections for our senior pilots longevity and seniority. In the last fifteen years we have voted for contracts which have undone much of our predecessor's effort.

As far as "self righteous BS" goes, the Republic guys have done an excellent job controlling their scope. They have one list which spans multiple certificates. A technique ALPA would do well to emulate, IMHO.

No disrespect intended. But, you and I hold the power to fix this problem more than the Republic of F9 pilots do.