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Old 08-04-2011 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
How about Part 135 rest rules? 10 hours.

Simple. Easy to understand.

"See you in no less than 10 hours."

"How long is your overnight?" "I don't know, but I do know it's not less than 10 hours."
Yeah, but they are only hauling 9 pax. It makes sense those who haul 30-500 pax should only get 8 hours of rest.
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Old 08-04-2011 | 04:32 AM
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This will fail just like Sen. D-bag or whoever who tried to put this off. All it will take is the Colgan families standing up one last time. You're fighting the man, he doesn't just lose easily. Maybe a few weeks setback max. Not too worried, it's still coming.
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Old 08-04-2011 | 05:37 AM
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Now when they say "carriers" I just can't force myself to believe they've consulted the pilots in any capacity here.

40% increase in payroll... well, look through those thousands of resumes you get. I'm sure you can find a few guys. Wouldn't it just be terrible, possibly the end of the world, if more pilots were employed?

I'm going to assume this delay is a cruel irony towards pilots, of Congress saying "we'll sleep on it."
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Old 08-04-2011 | 08:22 AM
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Nice to know a federal agency can just ignore congress and federal law.

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Old 08-04-2011 | 09:44 AM
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I am skeptical that these regs will be delayed. The FAA has posted the publication date will be 8/8/11, and I haven't seen this change yet. The WSJ has been wrong a lot, especially when citing "industry officials" as the source.
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The time for the cargo/charter operators to complain about this was during the NPRM comment period.
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Old 08-04-2011 | 01:01 PM
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there should be NO DELAY these rules were finalized quite some time ago and there's no way that there no being a faa for a week or two would delay it. the FT/DT requirements are complete-- the unions know it and what they are, the companies know it and what they are-- and they've already been published with that graph of duty on and legs per day etc. so come 8/8/11, there shoudl be a new headline that states the obvious---- dont even get me started how the government gave the airlines a nice investment for these regs by allowign them to recoup the faa's taxes by increasing airfares to compensate--- if that isnt a nice howdy doody! UFB
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Old 08-04-2011 | 02:01 PM
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The White House OMB is where regulatory changes go to die.

Executive Order 13563 requires all regulations, new and existing, to "take into account benefits and costs, both quantitative and qualitative"

This same order also required all federal agencies to submit a plan to the OMB within 120 days (EO 13563 was signed on January 18, 2011) on rules to be modified, streamlined, expanded, or repealed.

My point: The OMB has had the information on the flight- and duty-time changes for plenty of time. The fact that the OMB just now decided to review them is pretty strong evidence that the lobbyists have gotten to them, and won.

But we'll never know. The OMB does not disclose to the public who it confers with, nor do they comment on regulations under review.



Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
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Old 08-04-2011 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Milehighrabbi
The White House OMB is where regulatory changes go to die.

Executive Order 13563 requires all regulations, new and existing, to "take into account benefits and costs, both quantitative and qualitative"

This same order also required all federal agencies to submit a plan to the OMB within 120 days (EO 13563 was signed on January 18, 2011) on rules to be modified, streamlined, expanded, or repealed.

My point: The OMB has had the information on the flight- and duty-time changes for plenty of time. The fact that the OMB just now decided to review them is pretty strong evidence that the lobbyists have gotten to them, and won.

But we'll never know. The OMB does not disclose to the public who it confers with, nor do they comment on regulations under review.



Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?

or that they are so backloaded that they are just now getting to them. Lets be honest, none of us works in the white house. We'll see. Again, not terribly worried about it. they will happen.
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Old 08-04-2011 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WMUPilot
working for a 121 charter cargo company... I have this to say......

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! We need these rest rules more than anyone else in the industry! FML!
I second this one. 6, 16hr days in a row is completely unsafe yet legal and most companies will not change for safety so we need the rule change sooner than later.

Sent my comment to the white house.
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Old 08-04-2011 | 03:56 PM
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The ipa press release just announced that the rules will be released 11/22/2011.
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