Rest rules delayed to Nov/22/2011
08-04-2011, 04:32 AM
#91
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This will fail just like Sen. D-bag or whoever who tried to put this off. All it will take is the Colgan families standing up one last time. You're fighting the man, he doesn't just lose easily. Maybe a few weeks setback max. Not too worried, it's still coming.
08-04-2011, 05:37 AM
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Now when they say "carriers" I just can't force myself to believe they've consulted the pilots in any capacity here.
40% increase in payroll... well, look through those thousands of resumes you get. I'm sure you can find a few guys. Wouldn't it just be terrible, possibly the end of the world, if more pilots were employed?
I'm going to assume this delay is a cruel irony towards pilots, of Congress saying "we'll sleep on it."
40% increase in payroll... well, look through those thousands of resumes you get. I'm sure you can find a few guys. Wouldn't it just be terrible, possibly the end of the world, if more pilots were employed?
I'm going to assume this delay is a cruel irony towards pilots, of Congress saying "we'll sleep on it."
08-04-2011, 09:44 AM
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I am skeptical that these regs will be delayed. The FAA has posted the publication date will be 8/8/11, and I haven't seen this change yet. The WSJ has been wrong a lot, especially when citing "industry officials" as the source.
Rulemaking Management System - Report on DOT Significant Rulemakings
The time for the cargo/charter operators to complain about this was during the NPRM comment period.
Rulemaking Management System - Report on DOT Significant Rulemakings
The time for the cargo/charter operators to complain about this was during the NPRM comment period.
08-04-2011, 01:01 PM
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there should be NO DELAY these rules were finalized quite some time ago and there's no way that there no being a faa for a week or two would delay it. the FT/DT requirements are complete-- the unions know it and what they are, the companies know it and what they are-- and they've already been published with that graph of duty on and legs per day etc. so come 8/8/11, there shoudl be a new headline that states the obvious---- dont even get me started how the government gave the airlines a nice investment for these regs by allowign them to recoup the faa's taxes by increasing airfares to compensate--- if that isnt a nice howdy doody! UFB
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08-04-2011, 02:01 PM
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The White House OMB is where regulatory changes go to die.
Executive Order 13563 requires all regulations, new and existing, to "take into account benefits and costs, both quantitative and qualitative"
This same order also required all federal agencies to submit a plan to the OMB within 120 days (EO 13563 was signed on January 18, 2011) on rules to be modified, streamlined, expanded, or repealed.
My point: The OMB has had the information on the flight- and duty-time changes for plenty of time. The fact that the OMB just now decided to review them is pretty strong evidence that the lobbyists have gotten to them, and won.
But we'll never know. The OMB does not disclose to the public who it confers with, nor do they comment on regulations under review.
Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
Executive Order 13563 requires all regulations, new and existing, to "take into account benefits and costs, both quantitative and qualitative"
This same order also required all federal agencies to submit a plan to the OMB within 120 days (EO 13563 was signed on January 18, 2011) on rules to be modified, streamlined, expanded, or repealed.
My point: The OMB has had the information on the flight- and duty-time changes for plenty of time. The fact that the OMB just now decided to review them is pretty strong evidence that the lobbyists have gotten to them, and won.
But we'll never know. The OMB does not disclose to the public who it confers with, nor do they comment on regulations under review.
Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
08-04-2011, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Milehighrabbi
The White House OMB is where regulatory changes go to die.
Executive Order 13563 requires all regulations, new and existing, to "take into account benefits and costs, both quantitative and qualitative"
This same order also required all federal agencies to submit a plan to the OMB within 120 days (EO 13563 was signed on January 18, 2011) on rules to be modified, streamlined, expanded, or repealed.
My point: The OMB has had the information on the flight- and duty-time changes for plenty of time. The fact that the OMB just now decided to review them is pretty strong evidence that the lobbyists have gotten to them, and won.
But we'll never know. The OMB does not disclose to the public who it confers with, nor do they comment on regulations under review.
Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
Executive Order 13563 requires all regulations, new and existing, to "take into account benefits and costs, both quantitative and qualitative"
This same order also required all federal agencies to submit a plan to the OMB within 120 days (EO 13563 was signed on January 18, 2011) on rules to be modified, streamlined, expanded, or repealed.
My point: The OMB has had the information on the flight- and duty-time changes for plenty of time. The fact that the OMB just now decided to review them is pretty strong evidence that the lobbyists have gotten to them, and won.
But we'll never know. The OMB does not disclose to the public who it confers with, nor do they comment on regulations under review.
Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
or that they are so backloaded that they are just now getting to them. Lets be honest, none of us works in the white house. We'll see. Again, not terribly worried about it. they will happen.
08-04-2011, 03:48 PM
#98
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Originally Posted by WMUPilot
working for a 121 charter cargo company... I have this to say......
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! We need these rest rules more than anyone else in the industry! FML!
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! We need these rest rules more than anyone else in the industry! FML!
Sent my comment to the white house.
08-04-2011, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by brownie
The ipa press release just announced that the rules will be released 11/22/2011.
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