Rest rules delayed to Nov/22/2011
08-07-2011, 04:34 AM
#112
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Originally Posted by dosbo
There is no depleted supply or shortage of pilots!!!!
We are sitting at home furloughed or unwilling to start again at regional cr@p wages. When will people figure this out.
We are sitting at home furloughed or unwilling to start again at regional cr@p wages. When will people figure this out.
When you hear about airlines upping their wages/benefits etc. then you'll know there's a shortage.
They're doing this in China and India.
08-07-2011, 06:12 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by Old UCAL CA
What!? You don't think that more "rest" hours on the road away from your home base and time zone is restful? How dare you. 
Seriously, you would be surprised at the number of individuals who think that more "rest" hours in a road hotel is some sort of "victory feather" in the rest cap.
If you'll pardon the pun, you can "rest" assured that more time on the road for more rest and the same pay is going to translate to less time at home on an annual basis.
We'll just have to wait and see how it all works out.
Seriously, you would be surprised at the number of individuals who think that more "rest" hours in a road hotel is some sort of "victory feather" in the rest cap.
If you'll pardon the pun, you can "rest" assured that more time on the road for more rest and the same pay is going to translate to less time at home on an annual basis.
We'll just have to wait and see how it all works out.
08-07-2011, 04:39 PM
#114
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Originally Posted by Bascuela
Thanks posting Tony.
This is really going to effect the regional outstation domiciles the most. They have a lot of really earily shows with late releases. Or am I reading the table wrong?
This is really going to effect the regional outstation domiciles the most. They have a lot of really earily shows with late releases. Or am I reading the table wrong?
We do a lot of jibber jabber over what the rules might be. Well, here's the actual document.
Also, the rules that YOU will work under will be whatever the paid lobbyist can get changed from this proposal.
[Federal Register: September 14, 2010 (Volume 75, Number 177)]
[Proposed Rules]
[Page 55851-55889]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr14se10-24]
08-08-2011, 08:14 AM
#116
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I expect that the part of the rules that require more hiring for narrow-body and regional flying will be phased in over a couple of years, but the part that allows for more two-pilot trips to Europe will take effect immediately.
Call me a cynic...
Call me a cynic...
08-08-2011, 08:23 AM
#117
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Originally Posted by dosbo
We are sitting at home furloughed or unwilling to start again at regional cr@p wages. When will people figure this out.
Originally Posted by dosbo
So after the regionals can't staff what they need to, mainline will have to takeover the flying. Where do those pilot come from?
Isn't this what we are all hoping for??
Flying moved back to mainline due to inability of regionals to staff all those 50 and 70 seaters? There are plenty of pilots at the regionals to move up to the mainline aircraft. With any luck regionals will shrink back to flying 1900's, and Saabs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if a lack of pilots available took care of the scope problem?
Isn't this what we are all hoping for??
Flying moved back to mainline due to inability of regionals to staff all those 50 and 70 seaters? There are plenty of pilots at the regionals to move up to the mainline aircraft. With any luck regionals will shrink back to flying 1900's, and Saabs.
Wouldn't it be ironic if a lack of pilots available took care of the scope problem?
That also relieves the congestion at big hub airports by cutting the number of small planes taking up valuable slots.
Works for me.
Originally Posted by WMUPilot
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!! We need these rest rules more than anyone else in the industry! FML!
Frankly, that position sounds like treason to me.
11-11-2011, 10:20 AM
#120
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
I expect that the part of the rules that require more hiring for narrow-body and regional flying will be phased in over a couple of years, but the part that allows for more two-pilot trips to Europe will take effect immediately.
Call me a cynic...
Call me a cynic...
Hopefully the FAA doesn't care.
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