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Old 08-04-2011 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by brownie
The ipa press release just announced that the rules will be released 11/22/2011.
The same day the unelected 12 "super Congress" members release their recommendation to solve the debt crisis.
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Old 08-04-2011 | 10:04 PM
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Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
One's made from fruit juice and the other from real fruit But that's not what you were getting at, was it?
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Old 08-04-2011 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Milehighrabbi

Now, on a lighter note, a riddle: What is the difference between jelly and jam?
Jelly jiggles and jam oozes?
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Old 08-05-2011 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by brownie
The ipa press release just announced that the rules will be released 11/22/2011.
Link or source?
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Old 08-05-2011 | 08:34 AM
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Forgive me if this has already been covered:

Do any of you guys worry that the new rest rules could diminish our quality of life in the sense that we may end up spending more time away from home in order for the companies to extract the same number of flight hours from us?

Whereas now we work hard and sometimes sleep less but after the new rules we may work just as hard, sleep more and thereby have less time at home.

Just a concern of mine - of course safety is paramount!
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Old 08-05-2011 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Forgive me if this has already been covered:

Do any of you guys worry that the new rest rules could diminish our quality of life in the sense that we may end up spending more time away from home in order for the companies to extract the same number of flight hours from us?

Whereas now we work hard and sometimes sleep less but after the new rules we may work just as hard, sleep more and thereby have less time at home.

Just a concern of mine - of course safety is paramount!
What!? You don't think that more "rest" hours on the road away from your home base and time zone is restful? How dare you.

Seriously, you would be surprised at the number of individuals who think that more "rest" hours in a road hotel is some sort of "victory feather" in the rest cap.

If you'll pardon the pun, you can "rest" assured that more time on the road for more rest and the same pay is going to translate to less time at home on an annual basis.

We'll just have to wait and see how it all works out.

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Old 08-05-2011 | 10:48 AM
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I'm sure it will be painful in the begging. However, take Delta for example. The pilot contract has many provisions that are at least or more restrictive then this new rule.

It will affect the regional side more than anything. I believe that there will be a day soon within the next few years that people give up on the whole pilot thing. When they see that the job just consumes too much time for too little pay. That's when you will see the companies step up and do the right thing. The pay is already about as low as it can get. The job will have to become more attractive again. It really has let itself go.

Something has got to give.
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Old 08-05-2011 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
I'm sure it will be painful in the begging. However, take Delta for example. The pilot contract has many provisions that are at least or more restrictive then this new rule.

It will affect the regional side more than anything. I believe that there will be a day soon within the next few years that people give up on the whole pilot thing. When they see that the job just consumes too much time for too little pay. That's when you will see the companies step up and do the right thing. The pay is already about as low as it can get. The job will have to become more attractive again. It really has let itself go.

Something has got to give.
Bingo... this will make outsourcing even less effective, which with appropriate pushing can bring job expansion back to the top tier jobs. Result? Less people stuck at the regionals and getting real top paying career jobs.
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Old 08-05-2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
I'm sure it will be painful in the begging. However, take Delta for example. The pilot contract has many provisions that are at least or more restrictive then this new rule.

It will affect the regional side more than anything. I believe that there will be a day soon within the next few years that people give up on the whole pilot thing. When they see that the job just consumes too much time for too little pay. That's when you will see the companies step up and do the right thing. The pay is already about as low as it can get. The job will have to become more attractive again. It really has let itself go.

Something has got to give.
It really has let itself go.

That is the funniest sh@' I have read on here in a long time. I'm laughing right now. Thanks
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Old 08-05-2011 | 10:13 PM
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