AA Pilot beaten by removed passengers.
07-28-2011, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
This is why you leave them in their seats and let the LEOs "escort" them off the plane. You get paid to be the Captain, not a bouncer.
I've had to do this several times, and the last thing on my mind was that I was personally going to escort them off. Let the LEOs do their job.
07-28-2011, 08:10 AM
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In the state of FL you are legal to use deadly force if you feel threatened, I think that would be the case here, but not sure if being in the jet way is on Federal property or if FL State laws apply.
Either way, I don't escort drunks anywhere, that's what the Airport Police are for. Many years ago we had a similar situation in Boston, drunk guy argueing about his seat smelling like **** as we taxi'd out. (probably his own). We returned to the gate and on the way in I called ops to have the Airport Police meet us at the gate.
When we arrived, a male gate agent came on board to try to calm this clown down and escourt him off. He got punched in the face for his trouble. 2 size XL airport cops were standing in the door watching. The agent just turned to them and said, "He just hit me, you can have at him now."
And they did. Two 6'6" studs picked him up by his armpits and dragged him out into the jetway, where they threw him face down on the floor and cuffed him, laughing all the way, as the entire cabin erupted in applause! Last I heard the clown had to put up $10,000 to get bonded out.
Oh, and if you are going to go back there to try to be a hero, make sure you are wearing a clip on tie...
In the state of FL you are legal to use deadly force if you feel threatened, I think that would be the case here, but not sure if being in the jet way is on Federal property or if FL State laws apply.
Either way, I don't escort drunks anywhere, that's what the Airport Police are for. Many years ago we had a similar situation in Boston, drunk guy argueing about his seat smelling like **** as we taxi'd out. (probably his own). We returned to the gate and on the way in I called ops to have the Airport Police meet us at the gate.
When we arrived, a male gate agent came on board to try to calm this clown down and escourt him off. He got punched in the face for his trouble. 2 size XL airport cops were standing in the door watching. The agent just turned to them and said, "He just hit me, you can have at him now."
And they did. Two 6'6" studs picked him up by his armpits and dragged him out into the jetway, where they threw him face down on the floor and cuffed him, laughing all the way, as the entire cabin erupted in applause! Last I heard the clown had to put up $10,000 to get bonded out.
Oh, and if you are going to go back there to try to be a hero, make sure you are wearing a clip on tie...
Last edited by TonyWilliams; 07-28-2011 at 10:24 PM.
07-28-2011, 08:34 AM
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Another article:
Brothers Arrested, Pilot Hurt After Fight On Plane At MIA
Pilot Was Beat Up, Chased Around MIA
POSTED: Thursday, July 28, 2011
UPDATED: 11:13 am EDT July 28, 2011
MIAMI -- Two brothers were arrested after police said they attacked a pilot at Miami International Airport on Wednesday night.
American Airlines Flight 1755 was about to take off from MIA to San Francisco International Airport when a flight attendant noticed that passenger Jonathan Baez, 27, was not wearing his seat belt. She tried to wake him up, but he was unresponsive so she called the pilot.
Slideshow: Caught On Camera: Men Arrested
Read: Arrest Affidavit, MIA Incident
The pilot then decided to turn the plane around and head back to the gate. Once at the gate, the pilot and flight attendant both tried to wake Baez. He finally woke up and was told he needed to exit the plane.
[A bystander captured several pictures of the two men being arrested at Miami International Airport.]
Connor Austin
A bystander captured several pictures of the two men being arrested at Miami International Airport.
While the pilot and flight attendants were escorting Baez off the plane, they claim his brother, Luis Baez, 29, said, "When you fly to San Juan, I will have you killed."
Both men exited the aircraft. But police said that moments later, Luis Baez reentered the plane and punched the pilot in the face.
A flight attendant stepped in and police said Luis Baez hit her on the shoulder.
Police said both brothers then attacked the pilot again in the jet bridge. They punched him several times and then chased him around the terminal.
The rest of the flight crew and even passengers from the flight came to the pilot's defense and subdued the brothers until police arrived.
The pilot suffered a large bruise and blurring in his eye. He also told police he is very fearful that Baez will follow through on his death threat.
Both Luis Baez and Jonathan Baez were charged with Aggravated Battery and remain in the Miami-Dade County Jail.
Brothers Arrested, Pilot Hurt After Fight On Plane At MIA
Pilot Was Beat Up, Chased Around MIA
POSTED: Thursday, July 28, 2011
UPDATED: 11:13 am EDT July 28, 2011
MIAMI -- Two brothers were arrested after police said they attacked a pilot at Miami International Airport on Wednesday night.
American Airlines Flight 1755 was about to take off from MIA to San Francisco International Airport when a flight attendant noticed that passenger Jonathan Baez, 27, was not wearing his seat belt. She tried to wake him up, but he was unresponsive so she called the pilot.
Slideshow: Caught On Camera: Men Arrested
Read: Arrest Affidavit, MIA Incident
The pilot then decided to turn the plane around and head back to the gate. Once at the gate, the pilot and flight attendant both tried to wake Baez. He finally woke up and was told he needed to exit the plane.
[A bystander captured several pictures of the two men being arrested at Miami International Airport.]
Connor Austin
A bystander captured several pictures of the two men being arrested at Miami International Airport.
While the pilot and flight attendants were escorting Baez off the plane, they claim his brother, Luis Baez, 29, said, "When you fly to San Juan, I will have you killed."
Both men exited the aircraft. But police said that moments later, Luis Baez reentered the plane and punched the pilot in the face.
A flight attendant stepped in and police said Luis Baez hit her on the shoulder.
Police said both brothers then attacked the pilot again in the jet bridge. They punched him several times and then chased him around the terminal.
The rest of the flight crew and even passengers from the flight came to the pilot's defense and subdued the brothers until police arrived.
The pilot suffered a large bruise and blurring in his eye. He also told police he is very fearful that Baez will follow through on his death threat.
Both Luis Baez and Jonathan Baez were charged with Aggravated Battery and remain in the Miami-Dade County Jail.
07-28-2011, 11:58 AM
#17
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LMAO@ "have a nice rowboat ride back to SJU.."
And check out the one brother's mug shot.... Apparently somebody landed a few well timed punches on his face.
I cant't imagine the scene in the terminal.. All of a sudden the gate door slams open and out runs one of the pilots with two crazed idiots hot on his trail while a steady stream of crew and passengers come right behind them.
And check out the one brother's mug shot.... Apparently somebody landed a few well timed punches on his face.
I cant't imagine the scene in the terminal.. All of a sudden the gate door slams open and out runs one of the pilots with two crazed idiots hot on his trail while a steady stream of crew and passengers come right behind them.
07-28-2011, 12:14 PM
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It makes me feel ashamed of being from Puerto Rico. :/
I hope they don't get back here, I wish those two morons get the same beating, or worse, on jail. But what surprises me is, no Flight Crew Interference charge? And why such a low bond for the "Brain-dead Brothers"?
I hope they don't get back here, I wish those two morons get the same beating, or worse, on jail. But what surprises me is, no Flight Crew Interference charge? And why such a low bond for the "Brain-dead Brothers"?
07-28-2011, 01:46 PM
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What these men are accused of doing is inexcusable and as a pilot, I strongly feel they deserve the maximum allowable punishment THAT FITS THE CRIME. Anything more than that is stooping to the mentality and the level that these two men operate on.
The next time you fly to SJU I'll have you killed is not too far off from saying shoot them in their knee caps or hang them. IMHO, ofcourse.
What these men are accused of doing is inexcusable and as a pilot, I strongly feel they deserve the maximum allowable punishment THAT FITS THE CRIME. Anything more than that is stooping to the mentality and the level that these two men operate on.
The next time you fly to SJU I'll have you killed is not too far off from saying shoot them in their knee caps or hang them. IMHO, ofcourse.
Last edited by TonyWilliams; 07-28-2011 at 10:26 PM.
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