American Airlines .. Good times ahead.
09-06-2011, 01:55 PM
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American Airlines .. Good times ahead.
I know, I know.. there's going to be plenty of comments from the peanut gallery about BK and so forth but anyway...
From APC AA page : Mandatory retirements by 2025 about 6300.
That's just the "mandatory" ... heck there was 111 last week. For 2012 there is only "5" mandatory so I'm sure some of those numbers in the hundreds you can double.
A total of 9500 active pilots. You can count on another 1-2000 leaving early.
So that's about 8300= Good times ahead for someone getting there in the next few years!
(not really new news I know but just posting)
From APC AA page : Mandatory retirements by 2025 about 6300.
That's just the "mandatory" ... heck there was 111 last week. For 2012 there is only "5" mandatory so I'm sure some of those numbers in the hundreds you can double.
A total of 9500 active pilots. You can count on another 1-2000 leaving early.
So that's about 8300= Good times ahead for someone getting there in the next few years!
(not really new news I know but just posting)
09-06-2011, 06:33 PM
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In 2000, there were about 5,000 "regional" pilots.
In 2010, there were over 17,000 "regional" pilots.
Why does anyone seriously think that any major airline is going to replace any retiring pilots when they can simply OUTSOURCE them. Sure, there will be some hiring and movement. But it's not going to be a 1-to-1 ratio of retirees to new hires.
In 2010, there were over 17,000 "regional" pilots.
Why does anyone seriously think that any major airline is going to replace any retiring pilots when they can simply OUTSOURCE them. Sure, there will be some hiring and movement. But it's not going to be a 1-to-1 ratio of retirees to new hires.
09-07-2011, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Riddler
In 2000, there were about 5,000 "regional" pilots.
In 2010, there were over 17,000 "regional" pilots.
Why does anyone seriously think that any major airline is going to replace any retiring pilots when they can simply OUTSOURCE them. Sure, there will be some hiring and movement. But it's not going to be a 1-to-1 ratio of retirees to new hires.
In 2010, there were over 17,000 "regional" pilots.
Why does anyone seriously think that any major airline is going to replace any retiring pilots when they can simply OUTSOURCE them. Sure, there will be some hiring and movement. But it's not going to be a 1-to-1 ratio of retirees to new hires.
"You can lead a horse to water but........"
09-07-2011, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Riddler
In 2000, there were about 5,000 "regional" pilots.
In 2010, there were over 17,000 "regional" pilots.
Why does anyone seriously think that any major airline is going to replace any retiring pilots when they can simply OUTSOURCE them. Sure, there will be some hiring and movement. But it's not going to be a 1-to-1 ratio of retirees to new hires.
In 2010, there were over 17,000 "regional" pilots.
Why does anyone seriously think that any major airline is going to replace any retiring pilots when they can simply OUTSOURCE them. Sure, there will be some hiring and movement. But it's not going to be a 1-to-1 ratio of retirees to new hires.
09-07-2011, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Which is why "scope recovery" should be the #1 priority in any future contract negotiations at the "majors"
09-07-2011, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Majors traded away scope in exchange for pay/benefits. Scope recovery will only happen if majors are willing to take paycuts, and everyone claims that is taboo in this round of negotiations as well. So which is it gonna be? Cant have it both ways.
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