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Old 10-13-2011, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Just for fun- this is what the merger looks like to me:


Clampster, that picture is disgusting on so many levels, I cant stop staring at it. I guess that might be what you meant.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
Clampster, that picture is disgusting on so many levels, I cant stop staring at it. I guess that might be what you meant.
What I meant to say was "what I think of the seniority list agreement."

Yeah.. they are compatible, but good gosh....

Besides.. when I saw that picture, what has been seen cannot be unseen. So I had to share.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
I didn't say they were stupid. I said they and their union made probably the worst decision in all of aviation history.

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My point remains the same...for Frontier not to cave was a the worst decision in all of aviation history, yet you think that Air Tran shouldn't cave in to a much better offer. You also said something along the lines of "turning down the SWA integration offer may be the "right" thing to do, but you're still out of a job in the end".
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy View Post
NewK, Southwest has already made enough rumblings that they'll dissemble AirTran if this goes to arbitration. Whether or not MB's constitutional wasn't really where I was going on this ... I was thinking more in terms of trying to enforce MB after Southwest has divested itself of 51+% of AirTran.
The point on individuals' rights is that you can't disallow an individual to resell property if they no longer desire to keep it due to unforeseen issues.

I was looking at this more along the lines of how is MB going to be enforced if the purchasing carrier decides to not integrate the acquired carrier into a SOC? Look at American and American Eagle - they stay on separate operating certificates. If United buys Skywest, are they required to integrate seniority lists under MB? The big hole in MB is combining into a SOC. Can Southwest be forced into a SOC? I don't think so but I guess we disagree on this critical point.

That's fine, Andy. I thought you were the guy who said it wasn't constitutional.

I don't think M/B is about forcing a company to keep assets of an acquired company. Without taking the time to look at it again, to me it seems M/B is about merging seniority lists of the two company's employees.

Can SWA be forced into a SOC after they announced intent to merge the two companies? Probably not.

Can SWA be forced to take the other company's employees along with an arbitrated seniority list. I can't say for sure, but maybe.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:52 AM
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Clampster, that picture is disgusting on so many levels, I cant stop staring at it. I guess that might be what you meant.
I'm guessing you don't shop at WalMart
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