Improper phraseology
10-11-2006 | 04:12 AM
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For the most part, pilots and controllers (including foreign pilots operating in the states) have more issues with accents and pronounciation diversity (even amongst US citizens) than they do with understanding non-standard phraseology. Some of those folks from the NE (with strong Boston or NY accents), or the deep south, or Texas, can make life interesting.
10-11-2006 | 08:41 AM
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10-11-2006 | 08:53 AM
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There are a lot of people on the radio now and even more to come when 5000 VLJ's hit the skies. Sometimes using "old school rules" phraseology just does not work anymore. You need to get on say what you need to say and get off so the controller can respond and move on. It may work great when you are going around the patch in a C172 at a small airport, but in busy terminal or positive control airspace flying, there is not time for it. "Out of 1.5 for 3 or 3 thousand" is quick a still fits the requirements. I don't think it compromises safety or communications in anyway. There is nothing wrong with teaching people the correct way when they are training, but sometimes you need to adapt as you progress. Then that person who is trained properly will still carry some of that forward with them.
10-12-2006 | 10:07 PM
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AMEN! The last time I checked, the name of this forum was AIRLINE PILOTS Central. I'm sick and tired of hearing 50 hour wonders telling real pilots how it's supposed to be done. If you fly an airplane around that doesn't burn JetA, take your comments to Flightinfo or some AOPA forum.
I think I just peed in my Hanes.
10-13-2006 | 04:17 AM
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AMEN! The last time I checked, the name of this forum was AIRLINE PILOTS Central. I'm sick and tired of hearing 50 hour wonders telling real pilots how it's supposed to be done. If you fly an airplane around that doesn't burn JetA, take your comments to Flightinfo or some AOPA forum.
(Not that I think you'll care, but private pilots in this country greatly outnumber ATPs.)
10-13-2006 | 05:03 AM
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AMEN! The last time I checked, the name of this forum was AIRLINE PILOTS Central. I'm sick and tired of hearing 50 hour wonders telling real pilots how it's supposed to be done. If you fly an airplane around that doesn't burn JetA, take your comments to Flightinfo or some AOPA forum.
While I agree about the 50 hour wonder, don't forget about the pilots who fly freight in Barons, 310s, Navajos and 402s. As well as the pilots up in Alaska who land on riverbeds in a 185 carrying the mail. They are professionals who should be respected, regardless of the contents of their fuel tank.
10-13-2006 | 05:19 AM
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This site serves a good replacement for FI.com where everybody is invited. PPW serves as a good place where 100LL has much less of an influence (Since all members must be either Comm or ATP rated). The $10/year fee is well worth it IMHO.
10-13-2006 | 06:37 AM
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10-13-2006 | 07:30 AM
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By the way I requested 27 the other day for the south side, and i think I had the same controller. I told her we were running "obscenely late!" and she just cracked up and said it was my lucky day...mind you it was around 5:30 in the afternoon.
Oh how unsafe we airline pilots can be!
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