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Old 01-20-2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Virgin Atlantic is about it.
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If you haven't figure it out yet, Virgin America is basically a JetBlue copycat. Sir Richard still regrets the day he didn't invest in B6: Here's a quote for you...Mar 8, 2004 – ... Richard Branson was offered the chance to invest in a new discount ... in the U.S. "JetBlue (JBLU ) was the one that got away," he laments.

Virgin is going to have alliances/Interline or code share with International Airlines. B6 currently has 13 Total Interline partners (12 International and Growing). Virgin will do the same thing over time as their network grows. B6 and VX will eventually become the Domestic feed for international carriers.

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Old 01-21-2012 | 06:33 AM
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VX will code-share with VirginAtlantic and V Austrailia; that's why they're all moving into Terminal 3 at LAX.
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Old 01-21-2012 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
Code share with whom? Aren't most potential code share partners/alliances locked up with someone else?
Air Nigeria.
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Old 01-21-2012 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Clear Right
Fish,
If you haven't figure it out yet, Virgin America is basically a JetBlue copycat. Sir Richard still regrets the day he didn't invest in B6: Here's a quote for you...Mar 8, 2004 – ... Richard Branson was offered the chance to invest in a new discount ... in the U.S. "JetBlue (JBLU ) was the one that got away," he laments.

Virgin is going to have alliances/Interline or code share with International Airlines. B6 currently has 13 Total Interline partners (12 International and Growing). Virgin will do the same thing over time as their network grows. B6 and VX will eventually become the Domestic feed for international carriers.

JetBlue | Partner airlines
Except thst VX is no JetBlu. Good luck thinking otherwise.
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Old 01-21-2012 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Except thst VX is no JetBlu. Good luck thinking otherwise.
Are you saying B6 is infinitely better? I do put B6 and VX in the same category. One has just been around a little longer, so they have a more of an established route structure, alliances in place, and better pay rates. But if you look at jetblue 4 years after their launch, I cant imagine they would look too much different than VX is today.
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Old 01-21-2012 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by waterboy
But if you look at jetblue 4 years after their launch, I cant imagine they would look too much different than VX is today.
Well, in their second year of operation JetBlue netted 55 million (one of the only airlines to due so post 9/11):

JetBlue | Our Company | History

2/11 JetBlue turns three!
1/31 JetBlue reports $54.9 million net income for 2002
VX has only had one profitable quarter since inception and has not made money to date over the course of a year, with last estimates of 3/4 Billion dollars in losses.

Virgin America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The airline reported its first quarterly profit, of $7.5 million, in the third quarter of 2010.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
Code share with whom? Aren't most potential code share partners/alliances locked up with someone else?
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Old 01-22-2012 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by waterboy
Are you saying B6 is infinitely better? I do put B6 and VX in the same category. One has just been around a little longer, so they have a more of an established route structure, alliances in place, and better pay rates. But if you look at jetblue 4 years after their launch, I cant imagine they would look too much different than VX is today.
By far the biggest difference is the profitability due to an underserved market. Jblu had very little competition whereas vx has a ton. That's not healthy growth. Simply comparing aircraft and future orders doesn't mean squat.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 10:47 PM
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B6 made the incredibly intelligent move of becoming the "hometown airline" in the largest O/D market in the world at a major airport that was underserved by the legacy carriers (except for international service). Additionally, they tapped into the underserved Caribbean market.

Compare that to the VX "plan".

Hubs out of a notoriously bad weather airport that serves as hubs for TWO legacies. No wonder they can't turn a profit...
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Old 01-23-2012 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Beechlover
Hey guys, I'm addressing this question to any VX Pilots. I'm currently retired USAF and am now now sitting right seat at a regional looking at "career airline." I've done some research into the various LCC's out there including Virgin America and it's peaked my interest for many reasons.
I recommend that you apply to VX. Since I'm sure that you've got more than enough PIC from your flying frisbee time, move from an RJ to Fifi. Larger aircraft and experience in another type would be more valuable to you.
You mentioned that you live in DEN. I've commuted to/from SFO and it sucks due to weather issues. That alone will likely make you want to keep your resume/apps current.
If VX works out, great. You're there. If it doesn't work out, you can transition to another airline. I think going to VX is a much better choice for you than staying at a regional where you're getting right seat time.
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