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01-23-2012 | 01:36 PM
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I recommend that you apply to VX. Since I'm sure that you've got more than enough PIC from your flying frisbee time, move from an RJ to Fifi. Larger aircraft and experience in another type would be more valuable to you.
You mentioned that you live in DEN. I've commuted to/from SFO and it sucks due to weather issues. That alone will likely make you want to keep your resume/apps current.
If VX works out, great. You're there. If it doesn't work out, you can transition to another airline. I think going to VX is a much better choice for you than staying at a regional where you're getting right seat time.
You mentioned that you live in DEN. I've commuted to/from SFO and it sucks due to weather issues. That alone will likely make you want to keep your resume/apps current.
If VX works out, great. You're there. If it doesn't work out, you can transition to another airline. I think going to VX is a much better choice for you than staying at a regional where you're getting right seat time.
01-23-2012 | 02:03 PM
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Yes, it's all a crap shoot. My JetBlue interview was for June 2000, the day after I started at United.
Best of luck to you.
01-23-2012 | 02:26 PM
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B6 made the incredibly intelligent move of becoming the "hometown airline" in the largest O/D market in the world at a major airport that was underserved by the legacy carriers (except for international service). Additionally, they tapped into the underserved Caribbean market.
Compare that to the VX "plan".
Hubs out of a notoriously bad weather airport that serves as hubs for TWO legacies. No wonder they can't turn a profit...
Compare that to the VX "plan".
Hubs out of a notoriously bad weather airport that serves as hubs for TWO legacies. No wonder they can't turn a profit...
01-23-2012 | 03:23 PM
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Jetblue never should have been allowed to start a hub in JFK to begin with. It's an oversaturated airport that needed to cut service, not add it. You can't operate a hub with no flights after 4pm. It seems whenever Jetblue needed more slots, the city just created them adding to the congestion with no regards to the other airlines. How many flights a day does Jetblue operate out of LGA now? Don't tell me LGA was underserved also.
JBLU got a sweetheart deal with the Port Authority (at the blessing of Mayor Giuliani) as part of a deal to lower airline ticket prices. I even remember Giuliani making a comment along the lines that NYers' air service was like getting hamburger at steak prices.
The congestion that you mention wasn't at the airport level; it was all of the arriving and departing traffic along the east coast. I haven't turned a wheel for quite a while so I don't know if they've worked things out but I've spent plenty of time sitting in a conga line at PHL/EWR because all of the airspace along the east coast was saturated.
01-23-2012 | 04:28 PM
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At the time of JBLU's creation, JFK was an underutilized airport which was used almost exclusively for international flights.
JBLU got a sweetheart deal with the Port Authority (at the blessing of Mayor Giuliani) as part of a deal to lower airline ticket prices. I even remember Giuliani making a comment along the lines that NYers' air service was like getting hamburger at steak prices.
The congestion that you mention wasn't at the airport level; it was all of the arriving and departing traffic along the east coast. I haven't turned a wheel for quite a while so I don't know if they've worked things out but I've spent plenty of time sitting in a conga line at PHL/EWR because all of the airspace along the east coast was saturated.
JBLU got a sweetheart deal with the Port Authority (at the blessing of Mayor Giuliani) as part of a deal to lower airline ticket prices. I even remember Giuliani making a comment along the lines that NYers' air service was like getting hamburger at steak prices.
The congestion that you mention wasn't at the airport level; it was all of the arriving and departing traffic along the east coast. I haven't turned a wheel for quite a while so I don't know if they've worked things out but I've spent plenty of time sitting in a conga line at PHL/EWR because all of the airspace along the east coast was saturated.
01-23-2012 | 04:40 PM
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It was not an underutilized airport. It was the international airport of New York. When the international flights are arriving and leaving, the airport can't handle it. It was hardly used in the morning and still is like that. When Jetblue started, almost all of its flights were in the morning. Once established, they pushed for slots at night. There were none so the city created them.
01-23-2012 | 04:57 PM
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It was not an underutilized airport. It was the international airport of New York. When the international flights are arriving and leaving, the airport can't handle it. It was hardly used in the morning and still is like that. When Jetblue started, almost all of its flights were in the morning. Once established, they pushed for slots at night. There were none so the city created them.
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