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Old 10-15-2006 | 06:21 PM
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I'm preparing to transition from a military to a civilian career. I'm currently putting in my apps with the airlines and was wondering if my printout from the Air Force is sufficient? I had a electronic logbook that got destroyed when my PDA went TU.

What should I bring to an interview to validate my flight hours? Should I go back and start a logbook using my Air Force printouts?
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Old 10-15-2006 | 10:27 PM
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At fedex the printout will suffice
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Old 10-16-2006 | 03:05 AM
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If you have an electronic logbook that separates out the time better than the AFORMS printout, is that preferred?
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Old 10-16-2006 | 06:09 AM
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I made an Excell sheet that explained my times and how I converted them.
Somthing simple, easy to read (1 Page). So there's no doubt on how you got to your conversion time (i.e. .3 per sortie, .2 per sortie, or .3 per hour).
That was in addition to my AFORMS product signed by the guy/gal in charge of giving you the products

Good Luck!
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Old 10-16-2006 | 08:31 AM
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If your interviewing at SWA your pre-interview instructions will tell you exactly what you need to know. It gives clear guidance to those interviewing with Military printouts. Also the in brief folks at the SWA HQ tell you that they are all fluent with USAF, Navy, Marine and Army flight logs. I had a nice pretty leather bound civilian logbook and the reviewer never cracked the cover. All he wanted to see was my military closeout. The military printout seems to be the "gold standard" of credibility.
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Old 10-16-2006 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by C17MooseDriver
I'm preparing to transition from a military to a civilian career. I'm currently putting in my apps with the airlines and was wondering if my printout from the Air Force is sufficient? I had a electronic logbook that got destroyed when my PDA went TU.

What should I bring to an interview to validate my flight hours? Should I go back and start a logbook using my Air Force printouts?
MooseDriver,
Send me a PM and I will help you out. I think I know where you are aiming at and I just got done doing it.

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Old 10-16-2006 | 09:26 PM
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What Fecav8r said.
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Old 10-16-2006 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by C17MooseDriver
I'm preparing to transition from a military to a civilian career. I'm currently putting in my apps with the airlines and was wondering if my printout from the Air Force is sufficient? I had a electronic logbook that got destroyed when my PDA went TU.

What should I bring to an interview to validate my flight hours? Should I go back and start a logbook using my Air Force printouts?
At UPS the printout will suffice too. UPS specifically allows military pilots to add an additional .3 hours/sortie flown when totalling your PIC and total jet time. Good luck.
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Old 10-17-2006 | 03:17 PM
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Moose, unfortunately it won't let me PM you since I don't have 25 posts. Just didn't want you to think I didn't want or appreciate the help. Can you PM me?
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Old 10-19-2006 | 09:16 AM
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Unfortunately I cannot PM either. I am a TCM reservist though and have been with 2 major airlines and am now recently at Alaska. Alaska did not even read my logbook or AFORMS print-out! Just the times I put on the app. My last airline took my top two pages from the AFORMS green folder...(cumulative times) and just had me sign it. No questions or concerns. Since it is an official document I think they just take it at face value. The hard part is that the AFORMS product does not break times out such as PIC so you have to go in there and line-by-line it. I just scrubbed all CP and FP time and then looked for locals where I was not the IP and missions where I was not the AC. I believe the FARs allow you PIC time if you are acting as an authorized IP but not in command....FAR 61.51 (Pilot Logbooks). Have fun and good luck getting an interview!
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