HotMamaPilot

, I wonder how many of you hiding behind your avatars will have the ballZ to look a jetBlue guy in the face and say the same things you do on here. You just might be saying that to a guy your company put on the street. . Just reading some of the responses makes me embarrassed for our profession. I'd like to think we could progress together. Take a look at your own paystubs. Bet it doesnt look as good as it did 10 years ago. It is what it is. Try and keep it professional guys. Were just trying to feed our kids, and work as a team to get our pay and benefits up to something respectable. As far as the testing, the FAA Approved it. It is a miscommunication at their level, albeit it doesnt make it right. Again, most of us didnt approve of the program and still dont.[/QUOTE]

I know I sure won't

hatetobreakit2u

noone knows where dave bushy went and why he left? i cant imagine him losing his seniority (even if its just jetblue) unless he was offered something real good,

Daytripper

Assumption????? Won't sound too good in court.

If I had to guess, I'd say more than the number of you, that had the ballz to come forward with this while it was happening.

CUZZ

In Dave Bushy's farewell email address he indicated he had accepted the position of Chief Operating Officer at Cape Air in Boston. I think he has a home out on the cape or something and mentioned he wanted to spend more time at home. I'd be guessing as to any other motivations as none of us really know and probably never will.

CUZZ

Guys dont shoot the messenger. All these "studies" were conducted well over a year ago. The company asked for "Volunteers" to conduct a study on pilot fatigue in the cockpit. They mentioned the study was being conducted in cohorts with some doctor and the FAA. The POI oversaw the program as well. They didnt try to hide anything, so in essence there was not much to come forward about. Do you really think 1800 pilots could keep there mouths shut if something illegal was going on? Do you really think the FAA is gonna go after pilots and fine the company when they had there name on the project? Come on guys. Personally, thats all I know about the project. I didnt participate, and wouldnt have if they asked me. Theres no doubt there is some antiquated old laws out there. Personally, I'd like to see the 16 hour rule get reduced. I think its one of the unsafest rules we have. Of course CNN wont run the story that pilots all over the country might be flying you around having been up for 18 hours. Its not juicy enough. Go ahead and barbecue the JBers. If we go out of business you can throw parties and rejoice. If you ever find yourself at the bottom of the barrel because YOUR comapny goes under, I'd still invite you in my home for dinner and help you network to find another job. As things stand now, when you all start recalling, we will all be coming back to you, our dear and loyal friends.

noguardbaby

Dave Bushy was the former chief pilot at Delta. He left that position in 02, and moved over to jetblue. But, he didn't start over as a line holder at jb, he's management. And of course he'd be willing to take part in the "safety" experiment, b/c that's what he is paid to do, find ways to make pilots work more for less pay.

JB pilots, I know you're not asking, but here's my 2 cents anyway. In regards to compensation, W/O a union, you guys are forced to beg more than negotiate. ALPA may not be perfect, but it certainly is better than nothing....

tomgoodman

Some commuting pilots have been up longer than that, but time spent getting to work is "off the clock". I did it myself, so I can't criticize others, but some have predicted that we're only one accident away from an FAA clampdown in this area. How would they do that? Probably by putting the burden on the employer. Does anyone see a practical solution? I don't.

Velocipede

No we don't. Just a blanket "No jumpseats for B6!" policy will do fine.

Velocipede

Amen to that! The "boys" at Blue wanted this change so they could do transcon turns and enhance their ability to pick up more time to offset their crappy pay rates.

Looks like they tried to backdoor the FAA to get the data.

Mama FAA doesn't like that.

The best part about the article is B6 passengers are finally waking up to the reality of you get what you pay for.

At Blue, you get to be an unwilling lab rat. Sort of like when B6 sold passenger personal data to advertising companies a couple years ago.

What a slimy outfit.

Velocipede

You certainly aren't one of us. No honorable Union pilot would take a non-union position that undercuts the contract of the unionized carriers. That's exactly what you did just to keep flying. Perhaps you were just too lazy to go get a job where you had to work 40 hours a week.

Funny how the B6 pilot tune has changed now that expansion has stopped and contraction has set in. The Airbus' are going on the block and the EMB and the $72 an hour Captain rate is taking over. Well, you deserve it.

And quit whining about the lack of respect you get in the terminal. You earned that, too. You stabbed every Union pilot in the back thinking you could get ahead because Needleman promised you would get rich on B6 stock options. Well, you made your bed, now you get to sleep in it.

By the way, "We're just trying to feed our kids" is the first thing a scab says when he crosses a picket line. Funny you should have chosen that particular line as justification for butt*******ing Union pilots.