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R1200RT 10-25-2006 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by mastercraft (Post 72548)
I have interviews coming up with both and can't decide which to go with...assuming either or both hire me. I'm trying to weigh pay (SWA) with mix of flying (CAL- dom, intl, 75/6, 777, etc).

Let me know what you think. Thanks!

Like everyone said go to the first one that offers a job. If you get both look at the business plans and history. Every Legacy airline even in the good old days have ups and downs. They seem to find a way to furlough every 6 or 7 years (whatever the reason they just do). SWA on the other hand is rock solid and getting better. You want a place to retire from so look at the way they do business.
On paper SWA would be more solid/more money, but I can't imagine never flying international. Tough call, good luck. :rolleyes:

middleseat 10-25-2006 08:37 AM

Does anyone know anything about the Guam base for Continental? Are they making new hires go out there? Does expressing your disinterest hurt you in the interview? How long do most guys stay out there before they come back?

rusty737 10-25-2006 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 72892)
Only $29K/year more in the 737. CAL CA can move up to bigger planes and more money. I'd bet my future on CAL pay too.


CAL also has a pretty descent retirement plan (goes to 13% in 2007). It is controlled by the individual pilot in their own Swab account. It cannot be taken away like the old pension plans.

330xi 10-25-2006 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by R1200RT (Post 72909)
Like everyone said go to the first one that offers a job. If you get both look at the business plans and history. Every Legacy airline even in the good old days have ups and downs. They seem to find a way to furlough every 6 or 7 years (whatever the reason they just do). SWA on the other hand is rock solid and getting better. You want a place to retire from so look at the way they do business.
On paper SWA would be more solid/more money, but I can't imagine never flying international. Tough call, good luck. :rolleyes:

http://yahoo.businessweek.com/invest...025_660770.htm

quimby 10-25-2006 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 72893)
Still short to medium haul. It's all relative, but BWI to PHX is only a few hours. I do 8 hours legs and that's not long haul. Try a 16 hour leg.

Done the long haul stuff........................b-o-r-i-n-g!

not to mention how crossing time zones gets you all screwed up.:eek:

R1200RT 10-25-2006 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by quimby (Post 72953)
Done the long haul stuff........................b-o-r-i-n-g!

not to mention how crossing time zones gets you all screwed up.:eek:


Man you went to the wrong places! :eek:

Jetjok 10-25-2006 10:39 AM

Long haul, international flying is great. You takeoff, fly until you're hungry, eat until you're tired, sleep until you're hungry again, eat some more, then land. And you're away from the suits and terrible places like Memphis, Houston, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. Plus, unless you're a slam-clicker, there's a lot of neat places to see and equally neat things to do. Nothing beats a 2 hour massage in Shanghi for roughly $7. The downside is the time zones kick your butt and unless you use Skype, it's expensive to call home to get your daily dose of grief from your spouse.;)

Get both offers, then worry. Otherwise, take the first offer you get. You might not get another one. Good Luck.

Ottopilot 10-25-2006 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by middleseat (Post 72922)
Does anyone know anything about the Guam base for Continental? Are they making new hires go out there? Does expressing your disinterest hurt you in the interview? How long do most guys stay out there before they come back?

Most new hires are not getting Guam, they are getting EWR. Guam is pretty full now. It has some great flying, so don't be afraid to do it. You can bid out right away if you do get it. If you take the company paid move, you have to stay two years- I think.

Ottopilot 10-25-2006 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jetjok (Post 72962)
Long haul, international flying is great. You takeoff, fly until you're hungry, eat until you're tired, sleep until you're hungry again, eat some more, then land. And you're away from the suits and terrible places like Memphis, Houston, Atlanta, Dallas, etc. Plus, unless you're a slam-clicker, there's a lot of neat places to see and equally neat things to do. Nothing beats a 2 hour massage in Shanghi for roughly $7. The downside is the time zones kick your butt and unless you use Skype, it's expensive to call home to get your daily dose of grief from your spouse.;)

Get both offers, then worry. Otherwise, take the first offer you get. You might not get another one. Good Luck.


I'm enjoying it. I'll take Amsterdam over Albany, Rome over Rochester, London over Louisville, Barcelona over Buffalo, etc. You get the picture. I did domestic for the last 10 years, I'm enjoying the international stuff.

quimby 10-25-2006 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by R1200RT (Post 72955)
Man you went to the wrong places! :eek:

Nah, I covered most of the "exciting" destinations...........got some neat pics & stories. That was OK, the "flying" was b-o-r-i-n-g. Check the prog. page & 5000 miles to go......yuk.

To each their own.....


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